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Ukraine takes back dozens of towns in ‘annexed’ regions; Putin is ‘out of moves,’ ex-CIA chief says
CNBC.com ^ | October 5, 2022 | Holly Ellyatt

Posted on 10/05/2022 6:39:51 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: Timber Rattler
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Putin and those around him conceived of the Russo-Ukrainian War in existential terms from the very beginning. It is unlikely, however, that most Russians understood this. Instead, they likely viewed the war the same way Americans viewed the war in Iraq and Ukraine - as a justified military enterprise that was nevertheless merely a technocratic task for the professional military; hardly a matter of life and death for the nation. I highly doubt that any American ever believed that the fate of the nation hinged on the war in Afghanistan (Americans have not fought an existential war since 1865), and judging by the recruitment crisis plaguing the American military, it does not seem like anyone perceives a genuine foreign existential threat.

What has happened in the months since February 24 is rather remarkable. The existential war for the Russian nation has been incarnated and made real for Russian citizens. Sanctions and anti-Russian propaganda - demonizing the entire nation as “orcs” - has rallied even initially skeptical Russians behind the war, and Putin’s approval rating has soared. A core western assumption, that Russians would turn on the government, has reversed. Videos showing the torture of Russian POWs by frothing Ukrainians, of Ukrainian soldiers calling Russian mothers to mockingly tell them their sons are dead, of Russian children killed by shelling in Donetsk, have served to validate Putin’s implicit claim that Ukraine is a demon possessed state that must be exorcised with high explosives. Amidst all of this - helpfully, from the perspective of Alexander Dugin and his neophytes - American pseudo-intellectual “Blue Checks” have publicly drooled over the prospect of “decolonizing and demilitarizing” Russia, which plainly entails the dismemberment of the Russian state and the partitioning of its territory. The government of Ukraine (in now deleted tweets) publicly claimed that Russians are prone to barbarism because they are a mongrel race with Asiatic blood mixing.

Simultaneously, Putin has moved towards - and ultimately achieved - his project of formal annexation of Ukraine’s old eastern rim. This has also legally transformed the war into an existential struggle. Further Ukrainian advances in the east are now, in the eyes of the Russian state, an assault on sovereign Russian territory and an attempt to destroy the integrity of the Russian state. Recent polling shows that a supermajority of Russians support defending these new territories at any cost.

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A political consensus for higher mobilization and greater intensity has been achieved. Now all that remains is the implementation of this consensus in the material world of fist and boot, bullet and shell, blood and iron.

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Putin, very simply, could not have conducted a large scale mobilization at the onset of the war. He possessed neither a coercive mechanism nor the manifest threat to generate mass political support. Few Russians would have believed that there was some existential threat lurking in the shadow - they needed to be shown, and the west has not disappointed. Likewise, few Russians would likely have supported the obliteration of Ukrainian infrastructure and urban utilities in the opening days of the war. But now, the only vocal criticism of Putin within Russia is on the side of further escalation. The problem with Putin, from the Russian perspective, is that he has not gone far enough. In other words - mass politics have already moved ahead of the government, making mobilization and escalation politically trivial. Above all, we must remember that Clausewitz’s maxim remains true. The military situation is merely a subset of the political situation, and military mobilization is also political mobilization - a manifestation of society’s political participation in the state.

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The other is the interpretation that I have advocated, that Russia is massing for a winter escalation and offensive, and is currently engaged in a calculated trade wherein they give up space in exchange for time and Ukrainian casualties. Russia continues to retreat where positions are either operationally compromised or faced with overwhelming Ukrainian numbers, but they are very careful to extract forces out of operational danger. In Lyman, where Ukraine threatened to encircle the garrison, Russia committed mobile reserves to unblock the village and secure the withdrawal of the garrison. Ukraine’s “encirclement” evaporated, and the Ukrainian interior ministry was bizarrely compelled to tweet (and then delete) video of destroyed civilian vehicles as “proof” that the Russian forces had been annihilated.

Russia will likely continue to pull back over the coming weeks, withdrawing units intact under their artillery and air umbrella, grinding down Ukrainian heavy equipment stocks and wearing away their manpower. Meanwhile, new equipment continues to congregate in Belgorod, Zaporizhia, and Crimea. My expectation remains the same: episodic Russian withdrawal until the front stabilizes roughly at the end of October, followed by an operational pause until the ground freezes, followed by escalation and a winter offensive by Russia once they have finished amassing sufficient units.

41 posted on 10/05/2022 4:44:17 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: ansel12

Yeah talking to the Russians and doing a negotiated peace just seems so lame. Reagan never talked to them, oh wait, he actually did and we ended the Soviet Union without firing a shot.

You know you are right, how could I have been so blind! At the least we can have NATO aka the USA, commence conventional WWIII and start attacking Russia on all fronts, what could go wrong with your brilliant president and that Harvard faculty lounge cabinet of his making decisions. Then there is the US joint chiefs who haven’t won a war since Desert Storm in charge, again what could go wrong?

Or better still lets just skip this petty BS: get your president in the air and that brilliant general Miley which you warmongers love so much into action, scramble the bombers, start the launch codes on the ICBM’s and get the subs in launch mode. Why continue this $10 billion a week to the Ukraine when we can finish off Russia with say no more than 60 million dead Americans, 100 million tops. We just won’t mention the radiation sickness, fallout and famine that will follow, maybe a few more million dead from those things.

But hey we maybe will get Putin and show those Russians whose boss right-right and maybe you can explain in that 15-30 minute window to all those millions of Americans who are about to die before the warheads MRV in re-entry why and for that wonderful paradise known as the Ukraine! I’m sure they will say absolutely fry us and our kids for that sh(tholes known as the Ukraine and Russia. I’m sure they will understand and tell you warmongers—don’t worry about us we’re good with dying for you delusions of grandeur.

Going to war when your country or a treaty country is threatened is one thing, I would support and say absolutely. Our country isn’t threatened and neither are counties with defense treaties. This lets have WWIII over the Ukraine is pure warmongering stupidity and waste of blood and treasure at it’s worst.


42 posted on 10/06/2022 8:14:28 AM PDT by sarge83
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How can Putin be cornered if no one is even looking at Russia, no one wants to invade it, no one is invading it, and no one is firing a shot at Russia.

Russia is invading a peaceful country, Russia is not being cornered.


43 posted on 10/06/2022 11:01:38 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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