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Facing the Eastman memo
Washington Examiner ^ | June 17, 2022 | Byron York

Posted on 06/17/2022 5:47:11 PM PDT by T Ruth

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To: one guy in new jersey
The power to certify the tally is said to be merely ministerial

Please cite any part of the Constitution that mentions, or even suggests, Congress "certifying" anything.

41 posted on 06/18/2022 5:59:41 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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To: T Ruth
It is hard to get at the truth of this matter and I don't know if what York writes is accurate.

One area where he's accurate is his statement that no state sent more than one slate of electors.

42 posted on 06/18/2022 6:02:16 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: NNN
Eastman is no fool, but in this particular case he is hardly being objective at all. He was working as a legal counsel for the Trump campaign. This means he has a job do to — and being totally objective isn’t part of the job description.

He would be singing a very different tune if the roles were reversed and it was Biden contesting a Trump victory in 2020.

43 posted on 06/18/2022 6:02:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: one guy in new jersey
with instructions to explain why we shouldn’t keep the aforementioned presses stopped until those states fix their broken and corrupt General Election apparatus and come up with a legitimate election result

Where does the Constitution mention, or even suggest, that elections with popular participation have any role in the appointment of Electors?

States could stop this ridiculous "voting for President" business tomorrow without offending the Constitution.

44 posted on 06/18/2022 6:04:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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To: one guy in new jersey
What’s the harm in Pence focusing on four big swing states like PA, GA, MI, and WI, entertaining objections to the validity of the slate-selection election (election day) tallies based on the overwhelming stink of corruption arising from the city centers of those states, and send the envelopes back to those states demanding answers regarding what appear to be seemingly coordinated corruptions or irregularities common to all four states, such as unexplained cessation of vote counting when it appeared that Trump was winning, followed by middle-of-the-night resumption of counting resulting in people waking up to see that Biden had strangely seizing the lead in each such state literally overnight.

Pence did entertain objections to two states, Arizona and Pennsylvania. In fact the Arizona challenge had been submitted and the House and Senate were in the process of going to their separate chambers to debate and vote on the challenge when the capitol breach happened. The Pennsylvania challenge was debated and voted on later after Congress reconvened. Those were the only two challenges submitted.

45 posted on 06/18/2022 6:06:30 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: T Ruth

There were dual slates.


46 posted on 06/18/2022 6:19:06 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Dave Wright

Well said!


47 posted on 06/18/2022 6:20:43 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Jim Noble

The meat of the issue is of course in how objections are handled and disposed of.

I think this is covered in detail by statutory law, not by the Constitution, or by any specific provision thereof.

A Fox News article has this:

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After the debate, the House and Senate will both vote on whether to accept that state’s electors.

It’s a roll call vote that will document how each lawmaker stands on each state’s electors.

It takes both the House and Senate to reject a state’s electoral votes. If that happens, the electoral slate just disappears. It would be as though Arizona never voted.

This could take a very, very long time.
After the votes on that particular state, the House and Senate resume jointly again and begin the tally for the rest of the states.

If there is another joint objection, the House and Senate separate again for another two hours of debate and a vote on that contested state.

The time needed to separate, debate and vote on each state could be three to four hours.

The process repeats itself until all the states are counted.

The votes are not on Trump’s side
Since Democrats control the House and enough Republicans in both the House and Senate accept that Trump lost the election, these objections are a longshot effort.

At the end of the process, Biden and Kamala Harris are expected to be certified as the next president and vice president of the United States.

Their inauguration would be on Jan. 20.

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So “certification” is the term arguably loosely being used to indicate the official, formally determined result of the counting or tallying process spelled out in the Constitution.

The process of dealing with the objections seems to be where the grey area is, the absence of strict Constitutional guidance or instruction, and the uncertainty as to what will or should happen if the objection cannot quickly be dealt with and resolved. States with astonomically high stank factors in the process by which slates of POTUS and VPOTUS elector slates should be ready to have their face pushed back into their own vomit by means of the aforementioned process of dealing with onjections. The Federal Government need not put up with state-level criminality impunitiously corrupting the process by which national officeholders like POTUS and VPOTUS are selected.


48 posted on 06/18/2022 7:09:08 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: DoodleDawg

You’ll agree, will you not?, that Capitol Police murders of citizens cast a bit if a pall on a process by which the apparent electoral slate selection criminality in the states in question may have been exposed and rooted out.


49 posted on 06/18/2022 7:15:47 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Triple

Thats right and the true electors were standing by to fill the slot of those rejected.

Why?

The Constitution requires that elections be set and regulated by State Legislatures. The traduced swing states had agencies, and elected Judicial hacks who substituted themselves for the state legislatures and traduced the security and vote verification of the electoral process, Their electors sent in by 5 states were bogus. Very simple logic. I mean De Souza’s film 2000 mules is not based on imagination.


50 posted on 06/18/2022 8:38:26 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: T Ruth

The Show Trial was designed to ‘move the needle’ on the elections. It failed.

Here’s what we’ve learned - that democrats only allow their side to speak. More and more of us will be voting against them in the future.


51 posted on 06/18/2022 8:51:24 AM PDT by GOPJ (Trump said "if Biden's elected markets will crash and gas could go to $7.99 a gallon.")
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To: Candor7; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; ..

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52 posted on 06/18/2022 9:15:58 AM PDT by bitt ( <img src=' 'width=50%> )
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To: Candor7

Thanks for the post.


53 posted on 06/18/2022 9:48:28 AM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: T Ruth

Yu are most welcome my FRiend.


54 posted on 06/18/2022 10:34:28 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: T Ruth

Yu are most welcome my FRiend.


55 posted on 06/18/2022 10:34:28 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Alberta's Child

Did the Founding Fathers intend for the system to be a conveyer belt of corruption?


56 posted on 06/18/2022 12:06:15 PM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: Jane Long

Yes, it is speculation as to what may have happened...But...we do know what is happening now. Republicans are being hunted legally, politically, and ( sadly) physically, and the economy and world peace is a mess.


57 posted on 06/18/2022 12:10:29 PM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: wintertime

I’ll tell you this: The founders of this country would have been appalled at the idea that every moron who can breathe on a mirror would have the right to vote.


58 posted on 06/18/2022 12:27:59 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: DoodleDawg

I believe there were individual objections made to the electoral votes for a total of 5 or 6 states. Arizona and Pennsylvania were the only ones that went to a vote because the applicable statute requires objections from both a House member AND a Senator for the objection to even be considered … and they were the only two where the objections met that condition.


59 posted on 06/18/2022 12:31:45 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Triple
There were dual slates

No, there were not.

60 posted on 06/18/2022 12:50:33 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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