Posted on 06/13/2022 7:16:29 PM PDT by elpadre
“The United States and NATO, obviously. The Russians will run through all their inventory and be left with nothing to defend themselves from China or anybody else who wants to fight with them.”
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By the way, Russia doesn’t need to fight China, as the Neocons don’t run China.
In the mid 80’s I worked on a project where the uUSA bought bullet painting machines from France, I had to rewire them and program the Texas Instruments PLC that the Army specified , then we had to run 100,000 rounds of dummy 5.56 through the machine three times to show reliability. Then we had to prove we had the 100,000 dummy rounds and that none were in the machine. The machine painted the tips to show what type of round was being processed, and then this feed into the feeder machine for a belt linking machine, This was about time the saw was being introduced. It was then shipped to Salt Lake City. Must have worked, never heard anything about it after that.
Good story, but I can’t say that I can fully follow it!
Notice that the calls for peace grew loud after the after the political alliances and aid were set. This was after 40 countries committed to back Ukraine and the weapons shipments picked up. This makes it really cheap talk from my point of view.
1.) The Jimmy Dore Show, 6/11/22
Ukraine Should Admit Defeat NOW! Says Top U.S Military Leader
2.) Ukraine forces outgunned up to 40 to one by Russian forces, intelligence report reveals (6/9/22)
https://news.yahoo.com/intelligence-report-reveals-ukraine-forces-174236886.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
3.) Ukraine is running out of ammunition as prospects dim on the battlefield (6/12/22)
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4070605/posts
4.) Cases of desertion are growing among Ukrainian forces suffering significant losses in Russia’s artillery onslaught, report says (6/11/22)
5.) ‘They’re Wiping Us From Earth’: Evading Russian Artillery With a Ukrainian Military Unit (6/12/22)
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/ukrainian-military-unit-russia-artillery-1365021/
I worked on 3 of these machines, made by MATRA on France, the bullets came in loose, had to be picked up by a large wheel, painted the selected color ( black for AP, Red for tracer etc.. then fed in at the prescribed rate to the linking machine feeder ie 1 in 5, 4 in 5, then were linked into belt) Just mentioned it to show that someone has to actually make the ammo, and you can’t make it on one machine as fast as one gun shoots it, much less a whole war’s worth using JIT, or Not Just In Time as I called it. No one in the government has a clue as to all the pieces to get a factory built, much less manage it productively ( except maybe the people at oak ridge, I give them a pass because they seemed to understand that changes would have to be made to get the results they wanted, and were willing to listen)
10% for the Big Guy...
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Agree
You'd probably need a spreadsheet to map out the parties who got a piece of that action.
Where is the punishment for all the “reporters,” defense dept spokespeople and “sources” the flat-out lied to us for the last 3 months?
Thanks, that makes much more sense.
I’m not to concerned about any other country because this one needs some serious fixing... We get our own shxt in order then we’ll see.
We sabotaged the Lisbon Agreement in 1992:
Under Clinton’s Dayton Accords of 1995, the Bosnian Muslims got slightly *less* territory than under Lisbon. There had been a few other peace plans floated between Lisbon and Dayton, but the US always objected the Bosnian Muslims did not get enough map. I’ll never forget the look on Izetbegovic’s face at Dayton. All that death and destruction, only to end up with less.
In 1999 we sabotaged the Rambouillet Agreement (Kosovo) when the odious Madcow Albright whipped out Annex B after the FR Yugoslavia delegation was about to sign off on it:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/23607665
No sovereign nation could possibly agree to such a thing. As you can read, Annex B called for NATO military occupation of the entire FRY, not just Kosovo.
For some reason, we no longer cared about Annex B after bombing the daylights out of Serbia for 78 days, as the Kumanovo Agreement was very much the same as Rambouillet, but minus that pesky Annex B.
So, twice before we have sabotaged peace agreements, and both times it became clear those wars may* not have been necessary. But nobody cared. Except the bereaved, the maimed, the refugees, those who were left to live in ruin.
*There’s a good possibility Lisbon would not have prevented bloodshed altogether, but at least would have provided an agreed-upon framework for ceasefires and peacekeeping.
Good thing because so far Russia and its military haven't been able to defeat a small country that was not considered to be a serious military power at all.
Russia has shown the weakness of their nation. China and other nations will take advantage of that in the future.
Where are people getting this?
After the Crimean annexation in 2014, Ukraine souped up their military capacity to the point where they had the second largest army in Europe, with only Russia exceeding theirs. They'd also gotten a bunch of equipment from NATO countries in the interim as well, notwithstanding the clandestine (and sometimes out in the open) support in terms of training from other countries like America or Great Britain.
This is also notwithstanding the fact that we've gotten used to bombastic aerial bombardments to reduce the enemy to proverbial rubble before moving in with quick speed to take control of enemy positions.
Russia's military strategy is altogether different, conforming to an entirely different model: namely, artillery, artillery, and more artillery. Piecemeal territorial gains, followed by encircling opposing forces into a cauldron or a pocket of land; those who do not surrender within a given timeframe are then shelled without end.
(Also, Ukraine is not a "small" country; in terms of total square mileage, the country is about 42% larger than California. Similarly, the territory currently controlled by Russia, IIRC, is larger than England and Wales put together.)
Looking for a citation on “the second largest army in Europe”.
I will find it handy.
As of 2019, after the Russian Federation, the next European country listed is Italy at 342,000, followed by Ukraine at 311,000. However, Italy's Armed Forces also include their gendarmerie, i.e. police with military powers; as such, it's not a straight apples-to-apples comparison, as the Italian military police is comprised over 100,000 officers, which is more manpower than even their army!
By 2022, even in spite of this categorical difference, I think Ukraine lapped Italy if you consider the presence of military reserves as well.
Although the numbers will vary by some thousands depending on the source, my overall point was that the pretensions to Ukraine being a "small and militarily weak" country were simply not true.
Right now, the big problem is logistics: Russia has gotten to the point where they're able to cycle in and swap out soldiers on the front lines on a semi-regular basis. Ukraine, as far as I'm aware, doesn't have that luxury at the moment.
So much for our 40 billion. Here today, Gone tomorrow.
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