Convincing: 77% believe 2000 Mules, and 20M have seen it

Washington Examiner ^ | June 03, 2022 | Paul Bedard,

[Captain Walker]

Is it too much to ask that out of 2,000 Mules, at least 20 be ID’d as a result of geolocation data? You’d think if their proximity to drop boxes could be established, their home addresses would be even easier.

That information would require a warrant.

In pre-coup America, law enforcement agencies across the country would have obtained such warrants on suspicion of felonies committed during the election; they would have then questioned the individuals to whom those numbers belonged.

In post-coup America, where our law enforcement agencies have proven to be either grossly incompetent or grossly corrupt, one can no longer rely on them to prosecute wrongdoing, particularly any wrongdoing tied to our elections.

[Observator]

That information would require a warrant.

It'd require a warrant to arrest them. I'm talking about identifying them - and not by law enforcment - by Dinesh and True the Vote. They have the geolocation data, so why not identify at least the top 1% of most suspicious mules?

It's not like others suspected of voters fraud (I'm thinking of the GA election workers) weren't identified.

[Born to Conserve]

“Only 20 million have seen it”

Of the dozens of people I know who have seen it, and “are convinced”, only a couple paid for it — the rest streamed it off “illegitimate” sites.

A lot more than 20 million have seen it.

[pfflier]

And now we have a conviction in Yuma based on the video.

[Observator]

And now we have a conviction in Yuma based on the video.

You'd need to provide a link for me to be certain - but I've heard this repeated a fair bit. The individual in Yuma I believe you are referring to was indicted in 2020 and recently plead guilty.

[Captain Walker]

It'd require a warrant to arrest them. I'm talking about identifying them - and not by law enforcment - by Dinesh and True the Vote. They have the geolocation data, so why not identify at least the top 1% of most suspicious mules?

The information they have is nothing more than an incoherent set of numbers/letters; they can't "see" who is behind them.

This information can only be pulled from the phone carriers, and they will only provide it if presented a warrant for the information.

[Observator]

The information they have is nothing more than an incoherent set of numbers/letters; they can't "see" who is behind them.

You're right- that's what deidentified data is. They replace the name with a generated number - say "12345". And the data analysts can see the geo-locations 12345 visited based on phone signals. 12345 is identified as a mule because he went to a specific drop box location repeatedly. That location however, is not incoherent information - otherwise how would you know they were near ballot boxes?

12345 also goes to sleep at night, presumably most nights in their house. If you know an address, anyone can identify the resident with a simple web search.

Bottom line - if True the Vote feels they can prove 12345 swung by a specific ballot box repeatedly, they can definitely determine where they live.

[Captain Walker]

If you have an iPhone, enter *#06# on your phone's dial pad; you will see exactly what Treadstone (and True the Vote) sees if they are surveilling cell phones.

This is all anyone has who has picked up your phone through any kind of geo-locating devices; this information is meaningless without input from the phone carriers.

[pfflier]

https://www.riverbender.com/topnews/details.cfm?id=381101

[Captain Walker]

Bottom line - if True the Vote feels they can prove 12345 swung by a specific ballot box repeatedly, they can definitely determine where they live.

They can only tell where a cell phone was or is; tying the cell phone to an individual with certainty would require something more tangible (like a name on an agreement).

[Observator]

Thanks - I read the link. As I suspected, this story that is getting recycled has some fine print you should be aware of:

Fuentes and a second woman were indicted in December 2020 on one count of ballot abuse

It's rather disingenuous for 2,000 Mules to take credit for this based on the timeline, obviously.

[Observator]

They can only tell where a cell phone was or is

I agree. And - if during bedtime hours a cellphone can be traced to a physical address for 8 hours - you have a good chance at identifying an address. That is an order of magnitude less precise than a ballot box.

And if you can identify an address, in many if not most cases you can identify a person.

[marktwain]

True the vote was working with David Lara (Yuma County patriot who has been complaining about this for years) in 2020. He gives credit to True the Vote for the action on this, as I recall.

I know David, and have heard him on the local radio station show a month ago or so. Which is where I got this information from.

[marktwain]

And if you can identify an address, in many if not most cases you can identify a person.

To a fairly high degree of certainty, yes.

To a legal standard? Probably not.

[poconopundit]

Bidens whole job is to fiddle while Rome burns. That’s why they chose two folks who have no political future.

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That explains what’s going on very well. M_Continuum. Thanks.

[Observator]

He gives credit to True the Vote for the action on this, as I recall.

I have no doubt he's a patriot and gives credit to True the Vote, but it doesn't change the fact these people were caught a year before 2,000 Mules was released.

[jjotto]

Seemed to work out for IDing people who went to DC on Jan. 6, 2021.

[semimojo]

A bigger issue is Bedard is ignoring Rasmussen's likely voter screen, which is always the wild card in their polls.

How are they deciding who's likely to vote in 2024?

You can't extrapolate like this from a population you can't define.

[Captain Walker]

Seemed to work out for IDing people who went to DC on Jan. 6, 2021.

And who is doing the IDing? Law enforcement.

(I've never said that the cell phone info gleaned by True the Vote is incorrect. I have only pointed out that what TTV has does not identify (with the certainty that is necessary) the individual behind that phone identifier; this can only be done with input from the phone carrier.)

[TribalPrincess2U]

DAMIT! Try and try to create an account on TS. They say, “We sent you an email.” None sent. They keep saying this. Is someone redirecting messages or WTH is going on? Anyone?