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The Bay of Pigs Epilogue: Humiliating Che Guevara and John Kerry
Townhall.com ^ | April 30, 2022 | humberto Fontova

Posted on 04/30/2022 2:52:53 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/30/2022 2:52:53 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
This thread needs my favorite picture of Che.


2 posted on 04/30/2022 3:11:29 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kaslin

This excerpt is good:

Two years later, during his Bolivian “guerrilla” campaign, Che split his forces, whereupon they got hopelessly lost and bumbled around, half-starved, half-clothed and half-shod, without any contact with each other for six months before being wiped out. They didn’t even have World War II vintage walkie-talkies to communicate and seemed incapable of applying a compass reading to a map. They spent much of the time walking in circles and were usually within a mile of each other. During this blundering, they often engaged in ferocious firefights against each other.

“You hate to laugh at anything associated with Che, who murdered so many,” says Rodriguez, the Cuban- American CIA officer who played a key role in tracking Guevara down in Bolivia. “But when it comes to Che as ‘guerrilla,’ you simply can’t help but guffaw.”


3 posted on 04/30/2022 4:05:49 AM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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What have the Cubans done since the Bay of Pigs?


4 posted on 04/30/2022 4:08:38 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: Kaslin

IMO the greatest stain on JFK was his handling of the Bay of Pigs. Other than that he is probably—cancel—definitely the best Democratic president in my life. 100x better than the figure head Alzheimer’s riddled old man we have now.

Although to be fair all I remember is what I’ve read of him as I was a toddler when he was shot.

On Che..never did understand why those indoctrinated children of yuppies in the early 2000s all wore his image. To be honest I don’t think they did either.

https://imgflip.com/i/52rxge


5 posted on 04/30/2022 4:12:46 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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Typical anti-American John Kerry:

“I have nothing to hide,” Rodriguez said repeatedly. “I’m not ashamed of anything I’ve done. I’ve battled communism since I was 17. I help the Contras, the Salvadoran government. I do so as a volunteer, legally and openly. And if you’re sincere, senator,” he finished up. “You’ll put out a statement to the press about what I said here today. I insist that the American people know about my testimony!”

No such statement was ever issued from Kerry’s Committee. So two months later, Rodriguez called a press conference in Miami to tell his side.

A full year after leaking the slanders against Rodriguez and after the treacherous, lying swine who made them failed three polygraph tests, The Kerry Committee finally saw fit to allow Rodriguez’a year-long request for an open hearing. They scheduled him as the fifth witness at 5 in the afternoon when the Senate chamber was devoid of reporters and TV cameras. In the near-empty room, Kerry finally mumbled a half-hearted apology.


6 posted on 04/30/2022 4:19:46 AM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Phoenix8

That’s a good meme in your link. Thanks.


7 posted on 04/30/2022 4:22:14 AM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: TakebackGOP

Oops...

Saw the headline and thought it was a story about a democrat pool party...


8 posted on 04/30/2022 4:43:37 AM PDT by Iron Munro ( Joe Biden - Inventor Of The First New Language since Esperanto)
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To: Phoenix8

You missed Obama’s election headquarters picture of Che Guevara.


9 posted on 04/30/2022 5:58:09 AM PDT by Does so (https://youtu.be/3PxEWB6W8ig ......Uke's Independence Day Parade. Anthem starts at 15:00)
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To: Phoenix8

Do you have/know a link showing Che executing young women? It will


10 posted on 04/30/2022 6:00:11 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: TakebackGOP

They fought against the Castro-Soviet backed regime in Nicaragua and against communists in an Salvador, for starters, if you bother to read the article.


11 posted on 04/30/2022 6:24:23 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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And the Nicaraguan Sandinista, Daniel Ortega, was allied at the time with Libya’s Qadaffi and with Columbian terrorist group FARC, giving them control of at least 75 percent of the world’s cocaine.


12 posted on 04/30/2022 6:42:04 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Kaslin; Fedora

bump


13 posted on 04/30/2022 6:46:00 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

Humberto Fontova deserves a long life and and a large supply of pens. His writings skewer the left’s adventures in the Americas that lie below the Rio Grande makes fine reading.


14 posted on 04/30/2022 6:48:08 AM PDT by BartMan1 (Freedom)
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To: Phoenix8

“ definitely the best Democratic president in my life. 100x better than the figure head Alzheimer’s riddled old man we have now.”

Exactly what did he do to make him what you describe above?

I was 8 years old when he was shot.

I believe he was the first media produced politician. He was handsome, tall and had a way with the ladies that made the male media jealous. I remember the adults talking about Nixon sweating on the TV debate while Kennedy looked cool as a cucumber. TV engineered “magic” that people had never witnessed before. Color TV was brand new as were televised political debates.

All phony, engineered images accompanied by highly scripted public relations ploys. And please don’t forget the massive voter fraud associated with his election, I actually witnessed as a grandson of a dimocRAT PCO.

After writing this, I think I will concede to your point. JFK was the best dimocRAT president since 1960, he was only in office a little over 1000 days, not long enough to screw much up, although as this article illustrates, he was on his way to being a typical dimocRAT president.


15 posted on 04/30/2022 6:55:32 AM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Carry On!)
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To: Phoenix8

I’d say the greatest stain on JFK was stealing the Presidency, period. A President Nixon (1961-69) would’ve overthrown Castro and restored freedom to Cuba, and ditto that for Viet Nam. By the time he got in 8 years later, it was largely too late to repair the damage JFK/LBJ’s bungling incompetence had caused.


16 posted on 04/30/2022 6:58:52 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Plugs the Pedo - The Shart Heard 'Round The World)
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To: jacknhoo

“half hearted?” What could we expect from a douchebag the likes of John ‘Effin, Kerry?
I submit that G W Bush was not the best President but the fact that he kept Al Gore and J ‘Effin Kerry out of the white hut is to his credit.


17 posted on 04/30/2022 9:30:05 AM PDT by BatGuano (Fauci = Mengele (Angel of Death) + End the IRS)
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To: jacknhoo

Amazing Che faced death so poorly. Latin men generally know that one is supposed to play the final scene as well as one can. Machismo is often nothing but the sin of pride but it does imbue even poor men who have led vicious lives with the strength to face the final curtain with some dignity and courage. How disappointing, even villains should go out with courage, it does not redeem a bad life but it does redeem the last act. Unfortunately, Guevara was a weasel in his last minutes. The man who sent hundreds to their deaths faced death as a coward.


18 posted on 04/30/2022 10:49:34 AM PDT by robowombat (Orth, all y,)
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To: piasa

What have they done to overthrow their government since then?


19 posted on 04/30/2022 4:17:52 PM PDT by TakebackGOP
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Thanks for the ping. I gave an analysis of some of this here in the section titled "Subverting the CIA", where I drew attention to the questionable background of some of Kerry's key sources and witnesses:

Subversion in the Senate: Kerry's Communist Constituency

The allegations which triggered the Kerry investigation and Christic lawsuit had initially been collected by the ICDP and Christic from several key witnesses. The first was Jack Terrell, a mercenary who had volunteered to aid the Contras in 1984 and was suspected by US intelligence of being a Nicaraguan agent.28 Terrell directed Kerry's staff to another key witness, Steven Carr, an imprisoned mercenary who had been discharged from the Navy for dealing drugs before briefly joining the Contras, and had initially reported his allegations of Contra drug dealing to California State Assemblyman Tom Hayden, husband of Jane Fonda, then a supporter of pro-Sandinista groups.29 Carr helped elicit the cooperation of another key witness, his former associate Jesus Garcia, then imprisoned for illegal firearm trafficking.30 Terrell, Carr, and Kerry's staff also assisted a lawsuit filed by the Christic Institute against allegedly CIA-linked individuals on behalf of Tony Avirgan, an ABC cameraman, and his wife Martha Honey, a Canadian Broadcast Corporation/London Sunday Times journalist.31 Avirgan had been injured in a bomb blast while on assignment from ABC in Costa Rica to cover a May 1984 press conference where Contra faction leader Edén Pastora was planning to denounce other factions of the Contras and announce the formation of his own Contra faction. Pastora a former Sandinista, had refused to work under the Contra groups backed by the CIA and as a result had been cut off by the CIA earlier in 1984. Subsequently for funding he had turned to George Morales32, a drug dealer linked to the Medellin Cartel and to Cuba.33 Pastora's main rival within the Contras was CIA asset John Hull, a prime target of Kerry's investigation and of the Christic lawsuit, which attempted to link him to the Medellin Cartel's Pablo Escobar and Jorge Ochoa. Kerry built his case against Hull on the testimony of Terrell, Carr, Garcia, and five other key witnesses with criminal backgrounds and clear conflicts of interest: Pastora's cocaine supplier Morales; Morales' pilot Gary Betzer; Floyd Carlton, a pilot who smuggled drugs for Manuel Noriega, who had recently fallen out with the Medellin Cartel and been targeted for assassination by Escobar; Jose Blandon, who was also linked to Noriega as well as to the Medellin Cartel's main rival in the cocaine trade, the Cali Cartel, which was then waging a vendetta against Escobar; and Werner Lotz, a convicted drug dealer who had been the personal pilot of Medellin Cartel cofounder Robert Vesco.

So Kerry's case was questionable. That said, there were also some Brigade 2506 veterans who became loose cannons after CIA cut off their official support and got involved in some shady stuff linked to the above cast of characters, notably one Jose Egozi Behar, who became a close associate of the Guadalajara Cartel, a Mexican ally of the Colombian cartels which was the target of a major DEA investigation in the 1970s, which unlike Kerry's committee did result in arrests and convictions. I suspect Kerry's sources had a vague suspicion they could use this type of thing to pin something on the Contras and they put him on a fishing expedition hoping to find something solid. Meanwhile their ally Castro was supporting the Medellin Cartel himself. As I also note in the link above, In the late 1970s and 1980s as the Medellin Cartel was gaining control of the growing cocaine traffic, Castro allowed cartel cofounders Robert Vesco and Carlos Lehder-Rivas to use Cuban waters and airspace for drug smuggling. Meanwhile in the late 1970s smugglers in Central America who would later work for the Medellin Cartel smuggled weapons to the Cuban-backed Sandinistas, and used the opportunity to set up drug-smuggling channels in Nicaragua and the surrounding region. Similarly, on the BCCI end of Kerry's investigation, one of the BCCI-linked drug dealers Kerry investigated, Monzer Al-Kassar, had links to Soviet intelligence and Middle Eastern terrorist groups.

20 posted on 04/30/2022 8:16:32 PM PDT by Fedora
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