Posted on 04/09/2022 1:48:35 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
I see their logic, though that ended long before their massive human rights abuses.
I hear some of them also get paid by the hour as long as they troll and shill prolifically while on shift.
Coincidentally, my FIL was also at Iwo Jima. He was on the Saratoga. He said the same thing of taking prisoners: The ship wasn’t planning on taking any prisoners because there wasn’t going to be any.
Wow, what a douchehose. You just said that to me, and I don't get a pension, but wondering why you're so up on who was in the military here.
And I don't GAF what you say, you ARE NOT a natural American.
“ Love your Chinese screen name……..”
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Not sure what your point is.
China is on Russia’s side in this conflict.
Guess you wanted to get a dig in that doesn’t relate to facts or the topic at hand.
From yesterday when the Russians took the port or part of it.
They only get paid in rubles. The CCP’s White Monkeys earn a lot more.
He’d be right at home in the 46th Battalion
No he was not - news of his capture came as a surprise when he woke up and read the morning paper at home.
I am a US Army and Marine lifer, and still serving under the DoD. I have served with 18th Airborne Corp, I-Corp (1st Group), was long integrated into CJSOTF - I, A, AF, and been J4 q’d and integrated into multiple C2’s, deployed many times, and on numerous other missions. I have many famil members who have served in uniform, including one who was a Lt. General before and during Vietnam, and a Great Grandfather who fought at both the Battle of the Marne, and the *Battle of the Bulge in WWII.
As a civilian, I have deployed as a civilian into scenario’s most wouldn’t want to imagine.
I am also what anti-God, anti-liberty, anti-American leftists, and some “libertines” would negatively refer to as an Evangelical, “Bible thumping Christian”, and “fundamentalist”, and most definitely “astroturf”.
Today, I am being referred to as a
“Nationalist” (which I am most certainly a liberty loving nationalist), a Nazi, and a Fascist.
And without exception, every leftist strategy above, and every name in the previous sentence, has been used against me right here on FreeRepublic.
I expect this from main stream media and press, and “entertainment”, “educational institutions”, younger illiterate generations, but this should not be happening here on FreeRepublic.
I am a hard core ideological conservative, politically, economically, and socially, with stronger faith and science grounded beliefs against homosexuality (sodomy) by far, than most on FreeRepublic. Although I do not hate them, and God can still bring those out of it.
There are few in FR who could be more anti-humanist, anti-left, anti-socialist, or fully recognizing the generational evil and death leftism has brought to our nation, and the current and simultaneous leap toward global socialist totalitarianism.
While still a dirty rotten sinner, only saved by Goda grace, I am an unashamed God loving Christian and conservative.
The cornerstone of true conservatism (and arguably patriotism), is the pursuit of truth, as all other necessary principles of liberty and freedom derive from truth.
The leftist world denies the truth, and is motivated by the lust and pursuit of power and ascendency of self, and self over an enslaved society. Their strategies rely on historical illiteracy, rejection of context, then non-realistic emotionalism, and finally degradation (psyops) of the person or people group they seek to destroy.
Historically, this is how they are segregate and attempt to separate people from truth and context. They mock those they seek to silence and destroy.
Thus Ukraine scenario, and the lead up to it is far more involved and complicated than most can grasp. At will, the globalist left truly has most conservatives wrapped around the wrong axle, and has used multiple layers of reception and psychological influences.
We are all in the same boat in any ways. But if we truly want to know what is going on, and how various current points intersect with recent past, and have developed, every one of us with an ounce of integrity will need to swallow our pride, and at times accept where we may be wrong.
Worse, we still will not get everything right.
To really track who is who today, and what their beliefs and goals are, we would need to go back, and very carefully follow them.
At the moment, most “patriotic” and “conservative” Americans are clueless as to the real character of key leaders involving current events, and therefore easily sucked into leftist type “bumper sticker” slogans. Or worse, they are not really not moral or principled patriots and conservatives, and see everything happening today as a way to elevate and feed their own pride.
I am the antithesis of all things left, and therefore all things neocon, fascist, nazi, socialist, totalitarian, etc...
When I speak of Ukraine, some would argue it is anecdotal, and blow it all off. Especially when narratives are potentially on the line.
But having spent time teaching there, and spending time with both religious and secular groups, and individuals, as well as having studied UA’s history, and after having spent significant time across Ukraine, many in America are really wrong today.
I love the Russian and Ukrainian people, and have many friends in both today. As well, no one I know from either country, and no colleague or friends of mine in CONUS have ever desired this war.
The common baseline beliefs and narratives on Putin and Zelensky, and Russia and Ukraine are very wrong.
I won’t go into it as I have already gone verbose.
As of about six months ago, the armed Azov BN was loud and press and media hungry, but barely BN size, consisting of between 350-450 members.
Personally, I was once in a large Company with more than 350.
If they could have coined themselves Brigade, they would have, but would have needed at least five times that number.
From multiple sources, Ukraine believing it was on the precipice of a full scale invasion, in the last 120 days the UA Army “stood up” several new brigades. The UA Army took roughly 2,100 UA Guard, and by order integrated the infamous Azov BN, establishing the Bde at roughly 2,500. Not a large Bde, but a Brigade nonetheless.
For a different reason than you may think, for some time now, the infamous Azov BN has actually been part of a weird fight between UA neo-NAZI’s fighting heavily armed Russian neo-NAZI’s, which had long been working to destabilize UA government and law enforcement, not only in Eastern UA, but also in Kiev and accross UA.
As of about six months ago, the armed Azov BN was barely BN size, consisting of between 350-450 members. If they could have coined themselves Brigade, they would have, but would have needed at least five times that number.
From multiple sources, believing they were on the precipice of a full scale invasion, in the last 90 days, a new UA Bde was “stood up” by the Ukrainian Army, which consisted of roughly 2100 UA Guard, and by order integrated the infamous Azov BN, establishing the Bde at roughly 2,500. Not a large Bde, but still a brigade.
While the official Russian government estimates of neo-Nazi’s in Russia is placed at 70-80 thousand, there may well be upwards of a actual half million neo-NAZI members within related NAZI organizations, and high percentage German cities across RU today.
Historically, there are several structural reasons for this. As well, at their core, most Nazi’s are socialists and common evolutionary humanists.
At least a few nationalist political parties in Russia (all socialist) have members affiliated with Neo-Nazi’s. “Novorossiya” is a coalition party which has multiple members associated with several Neo-Nazi organizations —
https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/russian-imperial-movement
While not the focus, elements of an associated team once provided significant information to CISAC/Stanford (as the Stanford study was already well along), and provided SIGACT details of Russian neo-NAZI activity involving financial ties and attacks, (INCLUDING to very recent, and Russian neo-Nazi attacks and FSB collaboration on foreign soil, including in Ukraine, the Balkans, Germany, Spain, France, and half dozen countries in Latin America, and Mexico/Canada/US). Like Russian mafia have long been part of, or used globally by the KGB, and have finance and training ties to KGB/FSB and GRU/Spetsnaz, (past to present).
Yes, many if POI’s involved have direct ties to Putin’s past and current FSB and GRU, and Wagner.
Russian neo-NAZI proxy organizations may be small to very large, have significant support, both from large Russian German population centers (Yekaterinburg, Orenburg, etc), as well as support from traditional Russian population, and receive support from multiple government parties, billionaire oligarchs, ROC (KGB), and other Kremlin players.
Examples of largely protected Russian Neo-Nazi organizations—
- RIM (including “Partizan”//”Guerilla”)
- Imperial Legion
- DPNI
- ROD
- United Russia Party
- Russian Ethno Political Association
(REPA), and expanding cells acroas the large 9 nation subordinate member CIS
- RGS
- Moscow Defense League
- New Force
- Orthodox Nationalist
- NSI - Opposition Coordination Counsel
neo-Nazi National Socialist Initiative (NSI)
- National Democratic Party of Russia (NDP)
- Russian All-National Union (large RONS umbrella)
- Slavic Force (SS)
- Russian National Front
- Rodina
- The Last Crusade
All of these have, or are associated with the umbrella political party called *Novorossiya, and others.
It is also noted, the name *Novorossiya is the shared name, and represents the same objective of the expanded territorial Russia Putin has spoken of in multiple speaches.
As stated, Russian Neo-Nazi organizations are not exclusive to *Novorossiya.
Subsequently, while well published, these groups have almost entirely “escaped” Russian law enforcement and FSB scrutiny, and even been provided politocal and law enforcement cover, except for occasional mass murder sprees -
SOP’s are often aligned with longstanding and KNOWN FSB political an national “Destabilization by Corruptive Means/Methods” (DCM) of foreign governments.
Some of the collaborating teams also showed these Russian neo-Nazi organizations as part of larger FSB “Asymmetric Political Destabilization”.
Statements of some of these Russian NEO-NAZI organizations, literally mirror FSB SOP’s, and include in-common HVI’s, and common operations.
One recent example —
“Vorobyev has stated that the greatest threat to the Russian nation is “the stability of anti-Russian regimes on all the territory inhabited by the Russian ethnos.” In its intervention in Ukraine, RIM saw an opportunity to destabilize the Kiev government and further its objective of protecting ethnic Russians.”
This is not inconsistent with longstanding KGB efforts to demoralize and destabilize —
Example —
(KGB Yuri Bezmenov abridged)
Four point plan, and other statements are in play, including the first principle of “demoralization” -
https://youtu.be/0Y2B3xpnIQM
“In March 2015, the group attended the International Russian Conservative Forum, a conference for white supremacists held in St. Petersburg and organized by Rodina, a far-right Russian political party.” [WE tied funding to multiple Kremlin Oligarch accounts, including Sberbank]
Other attendees included U.S. white supremacists, such as Jared Taylor, who serves as the editor of the U.S. white supremacist publication American Renaissance.
Also in attendance were European extreme-right organizations, including —
- Golden Dawn (Greece),
- National Democratic Party (Germany)
- Forza Nuova (Italy).
In September 2015, RIM leader Vorobyev traveled to Sweden to meet with the — Nordic Resistance Movement (NRM), a neo-Nazi group active across Scandinavian countries and spoke at the NRM’s “Nordic Days” event.
In June 2015, RIM joined Rodina in co-founding the World National Conservative Movement (WNCM). A network of extreme-right groups from around the world, WNCM opposes pluralism, tolerance, and other liberal values, according to its manifesto.
The network promotes the use of violence in service of its ideology. RIM invited over 50 extreme-right, white supremacist, and neo-Nazi groups from 28 countries to join WNCM, including the
- National Democratic Party (Germany), related elements of which historically have been used by the KGB in West Berlin, and West Germany.
- Nordic Resistance Movement (Sweden)
- American Freedom Party (United States), among others.
A full list of WNCM-affiliated organizations can be seen under “Relations with other groups” in this profile. RIM leaders intended the WNCM network to facilitate the sharing of tactical skills across peer organizations and promote their own paramilitary training program.”
Some of these have direct ties to multiple pre and post WWII NAZI families from Germany (East Germany), Russia, and Argentina/Chile -
Interestingly, Komsamol — the Young Communist organization HQ’d in Moscow, (which actually consisted of ages 13 up to 29 years olds, [not 16-26 as widely circulated], with its parent organization having been the Communist Party of Soviet Union, is still funded by Communist International, and the Russian Government, and multiple socialist parties within current Russian government, including *Novorossiya.
There is also an ongoing related sex trafficking investigation involving significant persons in the US, info of which has long been kept locked up. The investigations I speak of evan in Trumps first year as president, which incriminated FSB, MSS, and others, including leftist NGO’s —
More Nazi activity surrounding Ukraine —
Russia has been using these guys in UA since the early 2000’s, and especially since 2012 —
Deaths of the following, are far less likely to be counted, as it would reveal how Moscow has literally been training and supporting neo-NAZI’s, and since 2004/2005 not just in Eastern
Ukraine —
https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-neo-nazis-in-the-ranks-of-wagner-pmc/
https://bitterwinter.org/nazism-in-ukraine-7-russian-propaganda/
https://bitterwinter.org/nazism-in-ukraine-6-pro-russian-nazi-fighters/
https://newslanc.com/tsukerman-russian-nazi-volunteers-in-donbas/
Russian Communist/Nazi alliance fighting in Donbas to take Eastern Ukraine for Russia —
Communist and NAZI’s supported and fighting together
Sent from Russia, how could this possibly be —
https://khpg.org/en/1608809502
https://khpg.org/en/1445287320
Russian 8th Army in Ukraine —
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_separatist_forces_in_Donbas
SCROLL DOWN AND LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PICS
Scratch that, you don’t want to know —
https://newslanc.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/volunteer05.png
DCM Efforts —
Regarding Zelensky, while there are most certainly things I truly do not like about Zelensky, he was most certainly not a Soros guy, or a Nazi, as some have wrongfully pushed.
I have been asked how was it Ukraine elected an anti-Kremlin/anti-DNC president then?
Zelensky — (that Jew boy who won’t give up Ukraine to German born Leninist Schwab’s boy Putin —
Yes, Schwab and Putin have been close -
(Watcb Putin and Klaus Schwab slobber all over each other at World Economic Forum introduction (WEF JAN 2021), having worked with each other since at least 1992 (and Schwab having worked with KGB at least to the mid 1960’s)
*2021 WEF Putin’s own words and in full context —
JAN 2021 WEF speach, Putin advocates for global vaccinations and varification, (including for young children), and rapid unification and digitization of global central banks -
(After most of a decade in Moscow, my Russian still isn’t the best, but the captioned translation isn’t bad.)
— [Zelensky] was overwhelmingly elected with approx 70% of the UA vote during Trump’s anti-Ukraine corruption efforts, largely carried out by Trumps US SoS Mike Pompeo. In the same window, Rudy Giuliani’s efforts were simultaneously gathering and exposing massive DNC Conspiracy/collusion with Moscow, and massive illegal corruption/laundering/racketeering related activity.
Some of this even exposed human trafficking.
Arguably, Trumps White House triggered the Ukraine/DNC investigations, and significantly DISRUPTED DNC/Uniparty criminal and political crime infrastructure in Ukraine*
SIMULTANEOUSLY (2019) —
Zelensky literally ran and was overwhelmingly elected to go after entrenched Ukrainian, Russian, Chinese, and US corruption (DCM) in Ukraine, and to try and *STABILIZE what had long been strategically destabilized through longstanding and predominant DCM protocol (DCM = Destabilization by Corruptive Means/Methods).
As a matter of record, Zelensky then stood by Trump, when the DNC/Uniparty tried to fraudulently and treasonously frame Trump in their 3rd Coup’d’etat effort, involving Trumps phone call with Zelensky — where ironically the discussion involved going after DNC/Kremlin corruption! 🇺🇸
Relevant -
Further Relevance -
* Soros Actually Sought To End Zalensky, And Spent Millions to Stop Zelensky -
Soros (and more quietly Putin) = Poroshenko
Renaissance Foundation (Renaissance Capital)
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukrainian-president-gives-high-state-award-to-george-soros/27362587.html
Soros (and only slightly more quietly, Putin) strongly Backed Poroshenko Against Zalensky
As Trump did prior to Zelensky’s overwhelming election (again DCM), Zelensky then went after Merkel and the Berlin/Moscow NS-2 axis on energy —
Zelensky and Merkel lock horns over Nord stream 2
https://youtu.be/9bh4P-MNjOI
Merkel Struggles to Reassure Ukraine on Nord Stream 2
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/08/22/merkel-struggles-to-reassure-ukraine-on-nord-stream-2-a74864
“Russia has been trying for the last 70-80 years to quietly push for a race war in the United States, lately it seems to be working.”
Historically this is correct !
Actually since 1927, when Trotsky’s “Red Dixie” concept was voted down by the Politburo at Stalin’s urging.
Apologies for all the mistakes — that was sent from my phone -
And my eyes are tired...
Ukraine shared the same hatred for Bolsheviks as the Nazis did.
However small the Azov effort, expect some “sharing of image” while defending East Ukraine from the hordes set against them.
“The ship wasn’t planning on taking any prisoners because there wasn’t going to be any”.
According to Wikipedia, 1080 Japanese soldiers survived Iwo Jima.
[And I don’t GAF what you say, you ARE NOT a natural American.]
For some reason the pro-Putin crowd wants to make excuses for the barbaric behavior of the Russian army. I doubt many of them can even explain to themselves why they think that way.
Or maybe they really don't want to face the dead bodies, raped women, murdered children, and other gruesome results of the Russian army's actions for their own personal reasons.
[For some reason the pro-Putin crowd wants to make excuses for the barbaric behavior of the Russian army. I doubt many of them can even explain to themselves why they think that way. ]
Some people assume the Russians are always going to be ruled by clowns and kleptos like Putin. That won’t always be the case. If it were ruled by someone competent like Hitler, utilizing Russia’s vast human talent pool and its resources to the fullest, we’d be in real trouble.
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