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Germany accuses Putin of 'blackmail' and refuses to back down after Russian President threatened to turn off Europe's gas supplies in HOURS if countries refuse to pay in roubles
Daily Mail ^ | March 31,2022 | By LAUREN LEWIS

Posted on 03/31/2022 3:25:01 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Hojczyk

Not so sure Russians are bluffing. China and India seem interested in the natural gas, maybe it will just get diverted all to them and Germany will be forced to pound sand.


61 posted on 03/31/2022 4:12:52 PM PDT by Marko413
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To: HighSierra5
Stoopid krauts.

Putting the part of my German ancestry aside for a minute ...

YEP! They were warned. Trump told 'em so and the stubborn bastards didn't listen. That's the problem with the damn' Krauts.

(Picking up the part of my German ancestry back up now ...)

62 posted on 03/31/2022 4:14:55 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: tophat9000

The inmates are running the asylum ... worldwide ...


63 posted on 03/31/2022 4:15:47 PM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: Angelino97

Ww2 never ended. Germany, with U.S help, has conducted warfare by other means. Germany controls most of Europe just as the toothbrush moustached Austrian intended.


64 posted on 03/31/2022 4:17:38 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Hojczyk

All of us who watched as Merkel placed Germany’s head in a noose feel vindicated.


65 posted on 03/31/2022 4:17:51 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: usconservative

Germans are great people. Their government however sucks shit.


66 posted on 03/31/2022 4:19:16 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Marko413

I have read that Germany lacks the facilities to obtain LNG shipments from other countries. However, did Germany do without Russian natural gas and oil in the Cold War era?


67 posted on 03/31/2022 4:20:07 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Angelino97

Day-go, WOP, greaser...I’ve been called them all and don’t care. Ya know why? I’m an adult.


68 posted on 03/31/2022 4:23:19 PM PDT by TonyinLA ( I don't have sufficient information to make an informed opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: Hojczyk

blackmail?

Consider yourself lucky Germany.

Putin has nuclear weapons and he’s evil enough to use them.

How’s that Nordstream II deal workin’ out for you idiot EU?


69 posted on 03/31/2022 4:23:38 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: Hojczyk

Gas and oil are fungible products. If the cat eaters buy oil and gas from the vodka drunks, then they’re not buying it from other sources, and those sources become available. Europe may have to ship in its gas and oil at significantly higher cost in tankers. Probably from Canada, since the Depends Filler in Chief is too busy drooling and smacking down lime jello and having sundowner’s rants over masks to worry about ample energy supplies.


70 posted on 03/31/2022 4:24:48 PM PDT by Mr. Rabbit
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To: Angelino97

Ethnic slurs... what is an ethnic slur? And why are they bad? Kraut is not even an ethnic slur so get off your Social Justice Warrior pony and ride off into the sunset. You guys really have to hunt to find new ways to be offended. Let it be.


71 posted on 03/31/2022 4:27:10 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavez)
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To: Hojczyk

Hard to feel down about an economically and socially self-destructing Germany.


72 posted on 03/31/2022 4:29:13 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Hojczyk

Trump saw it coming. Merkle allowed it.


73 posted on 03/31/2022 4:30:21 PM PDT by TygertLane
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To: SpaceBar
Germans are great people. Their government however sucks shit.

Did you miss the part about my German ancestry?

74 posted on 03/31/2022 4:31:55 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: nickcarraway

Well, if Rubles don’t work, gold will.


75 posted on 03/31/2022 4:33:25 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavez)
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To: shadowlands1960

“ Putin has them over a barrel, just like Trump predicted he would.”

And the solution is for Biden to drill. And the left won’t let him. Even if he woke up and yelled, “drill baby drill.”


76 posted on 03/31/2022 4:35:43 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Todays conspiracy theory is tomorrows spoiler alert." )
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To: Hojczyk
Stupid Germans were warned. They chose not to listen.
77 posted on 03/31/2022 4:46:44 PM PDT by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: nickcarraway

Thats petroleum. One can buy and store oil, and change suppliers at a whim. There doesn’t need to be an ongoing relationship. If India and China can get discount oil, great.

But this is about gas though. Fundamentally different. This is a utility service, not fungible commodity trades. Once the seller and buyer commit, and lay pipe and build gas fired power plants, etc., there is no easy way out of it.


78 posted on 03/31/2022 5:02:09 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Sacajaweau

Russia has the gas, but more importantly it has got Germany committed to its gas through pipelines and power plants, etc.

Germany (and some others) went for a single source gas supply with a fundamentally unreliable partner. Which is really dumb.

Germany HAS to dump the Russian gas dependency, quick. This may take a year, of putting its shut down nuke plants back in service (3 of these shut down last year), keeping its current nukes in service (3 were scheduled to shut this year), and also with its coal plants. And such other nuke and coal plants elsewhere in the EU (in Poland say) need to come online again to provide electricity to Germany.

Long term though this will be terrible for Russia. They have permanently lost a huge customer that they wont be able to replace. Gas can’t go just anywhere. It requires a long term commitment. Who will dare enter such a deal with Russia, ever again?


79 posted on 03/31/2022 5:11:48 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: tophat9000

Everybody’s thinking suddenly got real on 2/24.

Short term chaos, long term Russia gets it in the neck.


80 posted on 03/31/2022 5:13:08 PM PDT by buwaya
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