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The Press Has Lied To Drag The United States Into War Before. Don’t Think They Won’t Again
The Federalist ^ | MARCH 17, 2022 | Elle Reynolds

Posted on 03/17/2022 7:36:50 AM PDT by george76

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To: FMBass

The Gulf of Tonkin incident immediately comes to mind.

The Truth About Tonkin:

Questions about the Gulf of Tonkin incidents have persisted for more than 50 years. But once-classified documents and tapes released in the past several years, combined with previously uncovered facts, make clear that high government officials distorted facts and deceived the American public about events that led to full U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.

On 2 August 1964, North Vietnamese patrol torpedo boats attacked the USS Maddox (DD-731) while the destroyer was in international waters in the Gulf of Tonkin. There is no doubting that fact.

But what happened in the Gulf during the late hours of 4 August—and the consequential actions taken by U.S. officials in Washington—has been seemingly cloaked in confusion and mystery ever since that night.

https://www.usni.org/magazines/navalhistory/2008-02/truth-about-tonkin

Johnson Lied, 55,000 Died
National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 132 ^ | August 2004 | John Prado
Posted on 8/22/2006, 8:34:54 AM by Hillary’sMoralVoid

Forward: During this election season, you will certainly hear the mantra “Bush lied”. To counter that, here is a REAL example of how intelligence was distorted, resulting in TENS of THOUSANDS of American lives lost.

“The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, 40 Years Later — Flawed Intelligence and the Decision for War in Vietnam”

Signals Intercepts, Cited at Time, Prove Only August 2nd Battle, Not August 4; purported Second Attack Prompted Congressional Blank Check for War

Johnson-McNamara Tapes Show READINESS TO ESCALATE, EVEN ON SUSPECT INTEL. TOP AIDES KNEW OF MISTAKEN SIGNALS, but Welcomed Justification for Vote (Emphasis added)

Washington, D.C., 4 August 2004 - Forty years ago today, President Johnson and top U.S. officials chose to believe that North Vietnam had just attacked U.S. destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin, even though the highly classified signals intercepts they cited to each other actually described a naval clash two days earlier (a battle prompted by covert U.S. attacks on North Vietnam), according to the declassified intercepts, Johnson White House tapes, and related documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University.

Compiled by Archive senior fellow and Vietnam expert John Prados, today’s 40th anniversary electronic briefing book includes Dr. Prados’s detailed analysis of the intercepts - only declassified in 2003 - together with audio files and transcripts of the key Tonkin Gulf conversations between President Johnson and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara. The latter are excerpted from Dr. Prados’s book, The White House Tapes (New York: The New Press, 2003). The posting also contains photographs and charts from the Tonkin Gulf incident courtesy of the U.S. Naval Historical Center, a detailed documentary chronology compiled by the State Department’s Office of the Historian for the Foreign Relations of the United States series, a CIA Special National Intelligence on Vietnam.

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132/

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132/press20051201.htm


41 posted on 03/17/2022 9:22:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Encourage and fund our liberals & Antifa to move to Canada. Conservative Canadians can move here!)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

History is repeating.


42 posted on 03/17/2022 9:22:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui; ProgressingAmerica

I’m currently reading “Illusion of Victory: America in WWI”. Wilson’s mania for getting the US to save Europe’s aristocracy from that bloodbath ginned up our press to the point that a white hot hatred for anything German led to the lynching of random and innocent German Americans, in one case pulling a guy jailed for being a German lacking enthusiasm for Wilson’s war, from his cell and lynching him on the spot.

These lynchings were all north of the Mason-Dixon Line. The press in America are the boot lickers and running dog lackeys of the ruling class, AKA the hoarding class.

The Hater’s Guide to Woodrow Wilson
National Review ^ | March 16, 2022 | DAN MCLAUGHLIN
Posted on 3/16/2022, 2:41:56 PM by george76

Wilson, by contrast, served two full and consequential terms. He was the only Democrat re-elected to the job during the century between 1832 and 1936. He was lionized by liberals and progressives in academia and the media for most of the century after he left office in 1921. In my youth, and perhaps yours, Wilson was presented in history books as a tragic hero whom the unthinking American people didn’t deserve. He was often placed highly on academics’ rankings of the presidents.

Princeton University its school of international relations for him. Even in rescinding that honor in June 2020, the university’s named press release declared: “Though scholars disagree about how to assess Wilson’s tenure as president of the United States, many rank him among the nation’s greatest leaders and credit him with visionary ideas that shaped the world for the better.”

Excerpted:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4047295/posts
https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/03/the-haters-guide-to-woodrow-wilson/

Copy to: ProgressingAmerica


43 posted on 03/17/2022 9:29:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Encourage and fund our liberals & Antifa to move to Canada. Conservative Canadians can move here!)
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To: george76

George W. Bush knocked our nation off path and provided the left with inroads to power with his war mongering lies. The most destructive President in my time.. by miles.


44 posted on 03/17/2022 9:53:25 AM PDT by Born in 1950 (Anti left, nothing else.)
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To: Born in 1950
George W. Bush knocked our nation off path and provided the left with inroads to power with his war mongering lies. The most destructive President in my time.. by miles.

His daddy was no prize, neither.

45 posted on 03/17/2022 9:54:59 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: george76

I fear that GWB’s nephew is on track to upset state Attorney General Ken Paxton in the May 24 runoff election. The name “Bush” still excites many TX Republicans. Hope I am wrong


46 posted on 03/17/2022 9:55:14 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( )
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks Grampa Dave. It is good to see that others know the story.


47 posted on 03/17/2022 9:56:24 AM PDT by FMBass (USN vet DE-1074 NNTaleb fan )
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To: george76

With everyone in the world and their brother feverishly pushing for a war with Russia, I hope they know something I don’t, like not a single one of Putin’s nukes is operational.


48 posted on 03/17/2022 9:57:09 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: george76

NOTHING excuses the death and destruction being committed by Vladimir Putin - NOTHING!!!


49 posted on 03/17/2022 10:30:27 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Deo volente

They are all in the biggest Ground Zero of them all. Midtown Manhattan. What makes them think nothing will happen to them?


50 posted on 03/17/2022 1:00:43 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Mr. K
I think bagster does- he also ‘trusts the plan’ and still believes in ‘Q-drops’. Right Bag?

Absolutely correct, Special.


51 posted on 03/17/2022 3:29:07 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: AndyJackson
the WMDs in Iraq.

Which were indeed present until hours before the commencement of hostilities, when they were trucked into Syria.

52 posted on 03/18/2022 12:01:14 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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