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Secret to Ukraine's fierce resistance? Javelin antitank missiles
https://asia.nikkei.com ^ | March 2, 2022

Posted on 03/02/2022 7:08:06 AM PST by 11th_VA

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To: 11th_VA

I hear the stinger missiles have been quite effective too for the Ukrainians.


21 posted on 03/02/2022 7:31:34 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: Stosh

>Are there any “thermal chaff” counter-measures that can be used to confuse them?

Don’t see how, as the Javelin’s not usually direct fire. It goes straight up and then slams straight down into the top of the tank.


22 posted on 03/02/2022 7:31:41 AM PST by struggle
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To: 11th_VA

It’s way more than that. The Ukrainians have been able to take full advantage of hiding positions behind buildings and large trees to take down armored vehicles.


23 posted on 03/02/2022 7:33:10 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: 11th_VA

So the REAL issue is Javelins AND the right Administration.

Plus perhaps some simple willingness.

If Russia had invaded Israel, they wouldn’t have gotten 5 miles inland.


24 posted on 03/02/2022 7:35:09 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: 11th_VA

They made him a russian lieutenant,
They gave him a tank of his own,
He met with a javelin missile,
And out of his tank he was blown


25 posted on 03/02/2022 7:37:29 AM PST by Ceebass (USA RIP 1776-2021)
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To: 11th_VA

And how about the invasion on our border?


26 posted on 03/02/2022 7:38:07 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Stosh

“Are there any “thermal chaff” counter-measures that can be used to confuse them?”

Thermal chaff, no. The heat signal is too small to distract IR guidance. Flares have been used as counter measures for awhile now, with marginal degrees of success. Spamming out numerous flares early being the best option, but still no guarantee of success. The IR software keeps getting better and better.


27 posted on 03/02/2022 7:39:23 AM PST by BBQToadRibs2
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To: Stosh

Groan.

They are thermal imaging fire and forget. They acquire a thermal picture of the target (it’s a differentiation of temperature that creates the image). Then lock on that and fire. AI does the rest to home in on the image.


28 posted on 03/02/2022 7:39:57 AM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Stosh
Are there any “thermal chaff” counter-measures that can be used to confuse them?

Russians use Shtora-1 mounted on the Russian T-80 and T-90 series tanks. Doesn't seem to be effective against the Javelin, maybe because the Javelin can hit the Russian tank from the top. Its a blind spot for the Schtora defense system.

Shtora-1[3] is an electro-optical jammer that disrupts semiautomatic command to line of sight (SACLOS) antitank guided missiles, laser rangefinders and target designators. Shtora-1 is a soft-kill, or passive-countermeasure system. The system was shown fitted to a Russian main battle tank during the International Defense Exposition, held in Abu Dhabi in 1995. The first known application of the system is the Russian T-90 main battle tank, which entered service in the Russian Army in 1993.[a] It is also available on the BMP-3M infantry fighting vehicle.

29 posted on 03/02/2022 7:41:12 AM PST by tlozo
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To: 11th_VA

Javelin Missiles,
Lockheed and Raytheon got
A real Winner!


30 posted on 03/02/2022 7:41:50 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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To: Beowulf9
And how about the invasion on our border?

No one is stopping you from starting a new thread.

31 posted on 03/02/2022 7:43:25 AM PST by tlozo
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To: 11th_VA

Javelin seems to be as advertised and thanks to President Trump, Ukraine is using them.
Now maybe it is time to send them a few A-10s. Maybe the EU declare Ukraine a No Fly Zone. EU Not NATO.


32 posted on 03/02/2022 7:44:27 AM PST by Tupelo (“Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*ck things up” (Barack Obama))
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To: LouAvul
This is figurative, right? These are not heat seeking hence, no way a foot soldier could hit a moving target at that distance.

Research this please. It is effective out to 4200 meters.

33 posted on 03/02/2022 7:44:35 AM PST by Lazamataz (The forces of fascism and oppression are on the move in North America. We cannot let tyranny stand!)
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To: 11th_VA
Destroyed Russian T-72


34 posted on 03/02/2022 7:48:09 AM PST by tlozo
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To: tlozo

It doesn’t look like the reactive armor worked very well.


35 posted on 03/02/2022 7:54:05 AM PST by packagingguy
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To: tlozo

Ukraine is a distraction from the border crisis.


36 posted on 03/02/2022 7:54:55 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: packagingguy
It doesn’t look like the reactive armor worked very well.

Lol

38 posted on 03/02/2022 8:02:25 AM PST by tlozo
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To: Kevmo

Yes, Trump’s Javelins are more effective than Obama’s MREs.


39 posted on 03/02/2022 8:02:38 AM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: tlozo

So, according to you I do not have the right to an opinion, with all the other opinions stated on that column.


40 posted on 03/02/2022 8:02:52 AM PST by Beowulf9
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