Posted on 01/27/2022 7:03:18 AM PST by Kaslin
Why was that built?
As a quick end for someone in a deadly situation?
Thanks for the blown hatch update.
I remember it being salvaged, but I never heard about the exoneration.
I am friends with a member of Gus Grissom’s family. I was told by them, had the accident not happened, it surely would have occurred later, with even more catastrophic consequences.
On the Lunar Excursion Module, due to extreme weight constraints, the astronauts share a single oxygen supply.
One tank, one set of flow and pressure controls, one set of sensors, vs. two of everything.
Let’s say that’s you and me.
I manage to get a hole or tear in my suit. Sucks to be me. No matter what at this point I’m going to die. Sucks to be me.
If all of the oxygen in the LEM vents to lunar vacuum, you are going to die, too.
That single light weight valve, that fit in the palm of my teen-aged hand (I got to hold a non-spaceflight prototype), quickly shuts off the flow to my suit, which kills me more or less instantly. As opposed to dying over the space of a few agonizing minutes, while knowing my error will surely cost your life as well.
But YOU need not die.
Spaceflight isn’t for sissies!
As you say, NASA lied about Apollo I and Challenger’s astronauts dying instantly.
In the present day we’re forced to note that Pfizer, the CDC and the FDA all participated in the lie about the jabs’ effectiveness.
Why should anyone pretend they wouldn’t lie about the safety of jabs?
In early ‘61, as the Saturn V rocket was being tested, both NASA and Wernher von Braun personally made documentary films attesting that NASA did not possess the rocket technology to launch man to the moon. The Volta rocket was designed to do that, but it got cancelled due to insurmountable complexities and cost overruns. Yet Saturn V was used for all the Apollo “moon landing” launches. (!!)
Until his dying breath Grissom was known to be vocally pessimistic that NASA could overcome sufficient hurdles to allow Kennedy’s goal of placing a man on the moon before the end of the decade.
And NASA had not begun to quit lying.
Thank you!
What Greater Good would have been served by having CNN play the screams and cries of the Challenger seven right up to the point of impact on an endless loop for a week?
I had heard that Gus was one of the people responsible for the design, but I never knew why.
That’s interesting; sad, but interesting.
I would question the need to have the astronauts on supplied oxygen with their helmets on and at the same time be pumping pure O2 into the cabin. If this was what was actually happening at the time.
Our hippy neighbor family down the street were the only folks I knew at the time that thought the money would be better spent on welfare programs.
Re: 32 - Wasn’t there an attempt to blame Grissom for that Mercury mishap?
Around 1967 or 68 the family stopped at a roadhouse for lunch on a highway, somewhere in Georgia or might have been Alabama , with a bunch of semi trucks in the parking lot. One of those was a flatbed carrying two Apollo capsules. Being kid that was the coolest thing I’d ever seen.
I don’t recall anyone advocating to hear endless loops of crying/screaming, but I distinctly remember honesty being on most people’s lists of integrity and expectations from other humans.
Justifying lies will never cut it in my book, except possibly while training small children in traffic safey and the like.
That's a horribly long time under those circumstances.
I don’t think anyone really thought they meant Apollo 1 was ‘instant’, even if they said that it wasn’t literal. Unless it’s a nuclear vaporization or a shotgun blowing a head off it’s not going to be absolutely instant no matter what. It was seconds though, close enough.
And NASA didn’t have to say the Challenger survived until impact. As soon as they found that the oxygen was manually turned on they announced it very quickly too.
Some people see conspiracies in everything.
It’s more fun !
When it comes to our government the history of the folks in power worrying so much about “crowd control” relative to almost every situation that arises leads people to be a bit skeptical.
I wish it were just in jest, but a lot of people absolutely think pretty much everything they are told is a lie or a setup. Has to be some brain wiring thing.
Yeah, but some take it to extremes. I know a guy that literally believes the 9/11 planes were hologram images over cruise missiles. There are some real nutty ideas out there.
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