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People Are Hiding That Their Unvaccinated Loved Ones Died of COVID
TheAtlantic ^ | 1/18 | ANDREA STANLEY

Posted on 01/18/2022 11:04:16 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Peter ODonnell

Well the contempt cuts both ways generally speaking, I can’t really tolerate the politics of the left in any form, but we live in a society where the politics of the left are acceptable whereas anything remotely similar to fascism is not — it creates a dichotomy for those of us who react in a similar way to both types of political extremism.”

I don’t understand this statement since the politics of the left are fascism. What is not acceptable to the left is freedom.


41 posted on 01/18/2022 12:15:14 PM PST by angry elephant (Been with Trump since huge 2016 Washington state rally in May.)
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To: MarkeyD; MtnClimber

42 posted on 01/18/2022 12:30:21 PM PST by 4Liberty (Let's go Brandon 👏 ...👏 ...👏👏👏 https://youtu.be/qr_F_XQrukM?t=1)
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To: nickcarraway

“Noxious messages started coming in after she wrote a Facebook post...”

I think I see the problem.


43 posted on 01/18/2022 12:31:32 PM PST by moovova
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To: nickcarraway
Now the majority of COVID deaths are occurring among the unvaccinated,

There is exactly zero data available to support this assertion.

In fact, the national-level statistics published by Great Britain and Israel point in the opposite direction.

At best, COVID death rates are the same for "vaccinated" and "unvaccinated" patient groups. And COVID positive test rates from the general (not hospitalized) population are about the same too.

There are some very unpleasant indicators that "All-Cause" mortality rates are considerably higher in the 16-60 age group for "vaccinated" persons. Insurance company actuaries have been tracking this for over a year now and there is very little doubt of their findings. There is a great reluctance to publicize them.

The "All Cause" mortality rates manifest in much higher rates of cardiac problems, strokes, and embolisms in age groups where these incidents were extremely rare three years ago.

44 posted on 01/18/2022 12:38:23 PM PST by flamberge (Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear)
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To: tiki

The first day of texts...I would’ve given her.

The first text on the following day...*BLOCKED*.

I love my left-wing sister.(AND brother)...would be there if they needed help. But they start that stuff? “Talk to the hand!”

You’re much braver than I am.


45 posted on 01/18/2022 12:40:29 PM PST by moovova
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To: flamberge

Too bad the public health officials didn’t wait for the all-cause mortality data, like they do for cancer drugs, before not only approving the vax, but starting this unprecedented coercion campaign to mass vax otherwise healthy people. Especially since the vax does not stop transmission.


46 posted on 01/18/2022 1:06:38 PM PST by SiGeek
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To: seabeeson

That’s horrible. So sorry.


47 posted on 01/18/2022 1:23:13 PM PST by MagnoliaB ( You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you will find you get what you need.)
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To: nickcarraway

From what I’m reading its mostly the vaxxed who are dying.


48 posted on 01/18/2022 1:34:39 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: nickcarraway

Since leftists ALWAYS project, I’ll take this as evidence that the vaxxed are dying from the jab and family are keeping quiet about it.


49 posted on 01/18/2022 1:36:04 PM PST by rhinohunter (“Being woke means you’re a loser” — Donald J. Trump)
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To: MarkeyD
I’m unvaccinated. I had COVID. Walk in the park. What about the unvaxed that barely touched.

I'm sure I had it in April 2020 and it was not a walk in the park for me, but I got through it.

Also, what about all the people who were vaxxed and still died?

50 posted on 01/18/2022 1:44:49 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: moovova

Yup.

Don’t say anything to anyone any more.


51 posted on 01/18/2022 1:49:24 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: nickcarraway
"Unvaccinated" as group is too vague for any meaningful assessment. It should be unvaccinated with relevant good health practices, i.e. maintain vitamin D & C levels, etc and then an early treatment protocol if symptoms develop. I bet those numbers are very low.

I am also amazed at how many unvaccinated people are generally unaware of prevention and early treatment information. . .which, of course, has been largely censored by the cabal of Big Pharma, Big Media, Big Med and Big Government.

52 posted on 01/18/2022 1:49:49 PM PST by McBuff (To be, rather than to seem)
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Since leftists ALWAYS project, I’ll take this as evidence that the vaxxed are dying from the jab and family are keeping quiet about it.

Most likely it's being blamed on a *breakthrough* case of COVID.

53 posted on 01/18/2022 1:50:46 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: metmom

They pretty much always claim vaccinated people don’t die.


54 posted on 01/18/2022 1:52:36 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

This is pure horse poop. LOL


55 posted on 01/18/2022 1:52:45 PM PST by dforest (Freaking insane world. )
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To: nickcarraway

If they are hiding it, it’s because their leftist relations are evil, compassionless, judgmental a-holes who think that they know better than God.


56 posted on 01/18/2022 1:55:51 PM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: tiki

The insanity of it all is that she, fully vaccinated and one booster had Covid about a month beforehand and still thinks the vaccines work.

There is no possible logical discussion with someone like that.

Tell her you thought it was Covid, but you were wrong, it was only the Antonine plague and you got better.


57 posted on 01/18/2022 1:56:14 PM PST by Flick Lives
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To: angry elephant

Okay, I will try to explain. I stated that the politics of overt fascism (like Hitler) were unacceptable in modern society. But communism is okay.

Your take is that fascism is the politics of the left. This is part of a vast modern attempt to re-brand 1930s style fascism as some sort of off-track socialism. That’s fine, run with that if you wish. For me, fascism was fascism, it was not socialism just because Hitler hid behind a party label with the word socialist in it (to attract votes from disgruntled socialists). Nor am I one of those people who thinks fascism is just out of control conservatism or nationalism.

Fascism was something unique in political history. It borrowed ideas from various places, blended those with occult or mystical quasi-religious concepts, and banked heavily on nationalist and nativist sentiments. I don’t think it was a second branch of communism, in fact the most virulent opponents of fascism were communists, and one of the main reasons Hitler came to power was a fear that centrist parties were too weak to prevent a communist revolution.

As to this modern widespread conservative-blogger effort to rebrand fascism as communism 2.0, I’m sure it will sweep endlessly around in circles within the blogosphere and have no impact whatsoever on other areas of society. Of course a lot of good ideas meet that same fate, but the fate itself does not guarantee that any such idea is good.

I do agree however that some leftist or in their own minds center-left politicians have adopted some fascist ideas in recent years, however, I see those ideas as more directly adapted from communism. Here’s one way to diagnose the difference. Fascists send people to camps if they fail to meet a test of ethnic purity, or they have a pretty wife that a fascist wants to steal. Communists send people to camps if they fail to meet a test of ideological purity, or have a pretty wife that a communist wants to steal. So there is some overlap. Also they both use trains. Correlation is not causation though.


58 posted on 01/18/2022 2:18:16 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (a cloud has fallen over the lands of the free )
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To: ronnie raygun

Please be humane and don’t ever subject a pet to the Atlantic, even at the bottom of its cage!


59 posted on 01/18/2022 2:34:07 PM PST by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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To: nickcarraway

That pissed me off. Others on here defended him. Ugh!


60 posted on 01/18/2022 3:28:15 PM PST by JimSp
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