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Effort underway to get high school seniors to complete FAFSA applications before deadline
cbsaustin ^ | Dec. 11, 2021 | Ricardo Lewis

Posted on 12/12/2021 9:47:27 AM PST by bgill

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To: bgill
And there it is

In 2021, Texas high school seniors will be required to fill out an application for federal financial aid to make sure students don’t leave free college money unclaimed.

Texas and Louisiana are the only states that will now require high school students to apply for financial aid.

Earlier this summer Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 3 into law to increase school funding and approve teacher raises.

Abbott also approved a requirement for all Texas high school seniors to fill out the Free Application for Federal Student Aid or FAFSA for college.

Ya'll Texans need to ditch that stealth RINO and get the Colonel in there.

21 posted on 12/12/2021 10:23:16 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: BBB333

Awesome.


22 posted on 12/12/2021 10:23:48 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: bgill

https://studentaid.gov/sites/default/files/2021-22-fafsa.pdf


23 posted on 12/12/2021 10:27:49 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: Pollard

Allen West for Texas Governor campaign website.

https://west4texas.com/


24 posted on 12/12/2021 10:30:46 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: asinclair

Well, sure. Objectivity is wayciss, and lining up to suck at the goobermint teat is inherently antiwaycisss.


25 posted on 12/12/2021 10:30:55 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: rigelkentaurus
What kind of nonsense is this? It is a REQUIREMENT to fill out an application for aid to graduate High School, even if you don’t want it?

Progressives will use these numbers to justify gree college in some way.

26 posted on 12/12/2021 10:48:16 AM PST by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: Mr. K

Apparently YOU have never filled out an application for Top Secret Clearance. Some applications can be FAR to burdensome and are ridiculously so. I would suggest a 36 page application that expects information that is many, MANY decades old is just obnoxious and frankly I question whether ANY government, much less this one has any right to the information. Hell if Roe v. Wade is about privacy wtf is a 36 page application?


27 posted on 12/12/2021 10:50:53 AM PST by wastoute (Anyone who believes PsyOps are not involved has never met a PsyOps Officer.)
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To: bgill; All
Military training aside, the Constitution's silence on education means that INTRAstate education is automatically and uniquely state power issue, the feds having no express constitutional authority to tax and spend in the name of career lawmaker vote-winning student aid.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

In other words, the drafters of the Constituiton had intended for high school seniors to contact their local and / or state governments for student aid, not the post-17th Amendment ratification, unconstitutonally big federal government.

In fact, consider that President Thomas Jefferson, in a State of the Union address, also Justice Joseph Story, had both indicated that the states would first need to appropriately amend the Constitution before Congress can dictate, regulate, tax and spend in the name of intrastate schooling, something that the states have never done.

But patriot students will first need to work with local and state leaders to put a stop to unconstitutonal federal taxes before their states will find new revenues to encourage students with student financial assistance.

And to permanently restore state control of education, students will also need to work with their local and state governments to repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments.

Or if the states eventually decide that the federal government can manage their education dollars better then the states can (yeah, right), then the states can always follow through with Jefferson's now unthinkable advice and appropriately amend the Constitution for federal involvement in intrastate schooling.

On Jefferson's behalf, he also wrote the following.

“Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature.” — Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787).

28 posted on 12/12/2021 10:58:34 AM PST by Amendment10
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re: “Apparently YOU have never filled out an application for Top Secret Clearance.”

In this day and age of ‘social media’, participation in on-line groups, etc, that’s got to be a nightmare ...


29 posted on 12/12/2021 11:04:04 AM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I agree. I have a offspring going to college and there is no hope for financial aid. But I had to fill out the freaking forms for her to apply. No matter how many times I said no need I don’t want aid or came down to a requirement for application. It was just a way for the government to have the kids send parents info to the government.

It is way to much and big brotherish. If I don’t want it why do I need to apply?

This was a real eye opener for me


30 posted on 12/12/2021 11:04:15 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: bgill

“2) Any student whining that it’s too hard to fill out shouldn’t be qualified for college.”

Good point, as you do have to KNOW HOW TO READ to fill out the application.


31 posted on 12/12/2021 11:12:28 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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Man, I lucked out...50 years ago this month, I took the ACT test on the last day possible for eligibility for an ROTC scholarship I applied for.

Our guidance counselor posted the info just 3 weeks before the deadline.

My biorhythms were in sync that day, and I did well enough to get the scholarship.

Trust me, the FAFSA is NOT that difficult.

32 posted on 12/12/2021 11:16:05 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: fini
Quit treating 18 YOs like children, parents should not be filling out forms for their kids.

My 19 YO son's in for a shock, he'll be filing his income tax return in a few months. If he comes to me, I'll help him out, but I'm not doing it for him.

33 posted on 12/12/2021 11:21:01 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Night Hides Not

“Trust me, the FAFSA is NOT that difficult.”

There’s another issue, arising from the fact that (1) school is compulsory, and that (2) the FAFSA form involves all sorts of invasive questions.

It is easy to make the case that the combination of the above two things is a violation of every parent’s Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure. It’s nobody’s business what assets someone has, or how much they make, or how big their 401k is, or anything else, that must be mandatorily reported in order for their kids to graduate from school - which is also mandatory.


34 posted on 12/12/2021 11:32:44 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: rigelkentaurus

Yup. Same here. I looked at all they wanted to know. Said not a chance. Both sons graduated with out me filling it out.


35 posted on 12/12/2021 11:44:26 AM PST by enraged
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To: bgill

Why must this Free Federal Application for Student Aid be mandated to graduate?

It smells like a political boondoggle to enrich out “Betters”.


36 posted on 12/12/2021 11:58:49 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: coloradan

Good post—the requirement is totally insane—and should be overturned by the courts.


37 posted on 12/12/2021 12:00:35 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: bgill

As a Unix admin, I worked for the DOE providing the IT infrastructure in the backroom. We had to triple computing capacity as the deadline approached. Any outage was a supreme crisis. I must say the DOE personnel were of high quality during my time.


38 posted on 12/12/2021 2:26:52 PM PST by DeplorablePaul (s)
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To: cgbg

For the upper middle class kids, the most they can “receive” in “aid” is $5500/year in unsubsidized students loans. Hardly worth the trouble of filling out a FASFA. A year of public college tuition is about $15k now and room and board is the same.


39 posted on 12/12/2021 4:57:55 PM PST by olivia3boys
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To: Night Hides Not
I think maybe you need to reread what I wrote. This isn't some simple 1040 long form. The FAFSA is much more difficult than tax forms if the parents have any complexity to their income and financial investments. At least with tax forms you can buy tax software.

Think about the most intrusive financial document the govt can create about three people: the person submitting the form and his parents. My wife fills out our taxes and it runs into 25-30 pages and she considered the FAFSA form to be on a higher level of intrusion and complexity.

You cannot get any loan (even with a private bank) without the FAFSA, so unless you are completely self-funded, your child will have to complete that form. We went with a private bank (the rate was cheaper since we co-signed) and they cross-checked the FAFSA with our submission, so you just can't "fire and forget." I have no idea what level of intrusion/checking the govt would do if my son had gone with student aide.

40 posted on 12/12/2021 5:07:23 PM PST by fini
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