Posted on 10/26/2021 12:05:03 PM PDT by DeweyCA
any Columbia professor is by definition an American enemy
Public schools would be in competition for tax dollars that will follow the student. Are you arguing for an end of FedX and UPS because they provide competition to the government postal service? Public schools will have to up their game, they have been providing poor education for decades.
The public schools, as currently constituted, are really seminaries of fundamentalist progressivism.
https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/06/ol9-how-to-uninstall-cathedral/
“In a soft reset, we leave the current structure of government the same, except that we apply the 20th-century First Amendment to all forms of instruction, theistic or “secular.” In other words, our policy is separation of education and state. In a free country, the government should not be programming its citizens. It should not care at all what people think. It only needs to care what they do. The issue has nothing to do with theism. It is a basic matter of personal freedom.
You cannot have official education without official truth, i.e., pravda. Most—in fact, I’d say almost all—of our pravda is indeed true. Call it 99.9%. The remaining 0.1% is creepy enough. The Third Reich used the wonderful word Aufklärung, meaning enlightenment or literally “clearing-up.” Every time I see a piece of public education designed to improve the world by improving my character, I think of Aufklärung. But of course, a good Nazi education imparted many true truths as well.”
Jefferson was thinking of LOCAL schools, supported by LOCAL taxes, and controlled by LOCALLY elected officials.
The feds grant taxpayer money to school districts which do as the feds say, and have the power to deny federal funds to school districts who defy federal mandates.
That is the very DEFINITION of "establish" (as used in the First Amendment's "establishment of religion" clause).
I read the article. I don’t believe much of it is correct. Also, the article merely states beliefs without substantiation.
That is correct. His idea was not adopted for valid reasons: Poor counties, isolated regions, areas of reduced population, so on.
The constitution was not designed this way. This is propaganda promoted by progressives.
There is no "schools" in the enumerated powers. The end.
East Asians, Chicoms and Indians do not care.
Iirc, Japanese are year round students. They don’t care, either.
2+2=4, not 5.
That requires honest elections.
Try reading the letters that passed between the Founders before, during, and after the compilation and ratification of the Constitution. You will discover your error.
There is no "enumerated powers" in the Constitution. There are enumerated Rights, but not powers. The "powers" are invested in the Congress, which can make laws that do not conflict with rights. Schools simply do not conflict with the Bill of Rights.
No end. You are free to continue this discussion. Please do so with facts, not personal declarations.
While your statement is true, it is not germane to the discussion.
What made you a month late to the discussion?
It’s a distinction without a difference. Schools aren’t on the list, then they aren’t on the list. Article I, Section 8 is not very long.
The Bill of Rights is irrelevant here, it’s the rest of the Constitution that’s at issue. Schools are something that belongs not even to the states, but to the people and families. There’s no need for government of any kind in this business. There’s no benefit to welcoming poisonous government into the mix, you have done this purely voluntary.
It's a Free Republic tradition! LOL
There is no list of what they are allowed to do. There is only a list of what they cannot do. If you think otherwise, please post appropriate reference material that supports your view. Otherwise, you are just voicing an opinion; and, opinions are not actionable.
Depends on what is meant by “public school.”
The one-room schoolhouse was a public school. Community paid the teacher.
Leaders of some countries are tasked with elevating their people. In those countries, schooling is roigorous.
Leaders of other countries, in partular those countries with great weath and a high standard of living, are tasked with lowering the expectations and standard of living. The object of all this is to level the field globally.
Crappy education in the US is not by accident, it is by design and by intent.
Please post appropriate reference material, or links thereto, that supports your view.
The history is pretty clear on this question. The constitution, at least in the mind of its creators and ratifying powers, viewed it as creating a government of limited and enumerated powers. Enumerated powers is, according to most people's definition, a list of what the government is allowed to do.
Now, I suppose some rhetorical trick or clever sophistry can convert enumerated powers into "a list of what they cannot do." Based on your posts on this thread, I expect a naked disagreement with no supporting argument.
Brief history at History of the Bill of Rights.
Federalists believed a Bill of Rights was unnecessary because they believed that the Constitution only gave the government limited powers that were specifically listed. The government had no power to do things it was not entitled to in the Constitution. Alexander Hamilton believed that the people were not giving up any rights by accepting the Constitution. Therefore, in his view, it was not necessary to protect something which was not taken away from them with a Bill of Rights.The Federalists also believed, though, that adding a Bill of Rights could be very dangerous. If specific rights to be retained by the people were listed in the Constitution, they believed it would imply that any rights not listed were not protected and that the government would gradually encroach upon these rights.
The Anti-Federalists remained unpersuaded. They wanted guarantees for such things as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to petition the government and many others, specifically listed in the Constitution.
Constitution Article VI, paragraph 2 states
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
Now, I just finished reading the entire Constitution again; and, I still didn't see anything at all that would lead me to believe that schools cannot be created by the either the state or federal government. If you think such is the case, please quote it so that we can discuss it. I am ready, willing, and able to discuss this objectively. Are you?
On the other hand, I can exhibit: Jefferson's Bill https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/03-12-02-0095. This bill was for his state, but it didn't pass. Another form passed later.
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