and if they don't sell?
Posted on 08/05/2021 7:42:11 AM PDT by karpov
I noticed that too.
U.S. to Set Electric-Vehicle Sales Target of 50% by 2030.
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U.S. to Set Hit Reduction of Fossil Fuel Power Plant Target of 50% by 2030.
I just want to know where all the power for these millions of EVs is going to come from.
You don’t see them building new power plants, do you?
Do you think there is going to be enough solar and wind to power millions of these things?
Or are we just going to set ourselves up for rolling blackouts like California has and just be ok with that?
investing in a whole-home generator has gone up on my list of priorities, as is investing in generator companies like cat, generac, etc.
I want to say that replacing the battery on a Tesla is upwards of $30k or more
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As we just learned it is mistaken to imagine the Tesla battery is some large battery brick, instead it is a double metal sheet with thousands of linked AA batteries ... jiggle one lose, it falls and instant short.
50% EV ain’t gonna happen.
Electric cars are great for wealthy people who have 4 or 5 cars. Electric cars are particularly useful when you want to demonstrate how environmentally responsible you are as you drive from your 10 bedroom home to your private jet.
Maybe you’ll be able to garage the cars in 8 years from battery fires.
Maybe not.
The lesson not learned
It’s easy to make
It’s hard to sell
How many municipal sized transformers were ordered from China to network charging stations with remote electrical generation? It takes almost a decade for them to arrive after they’re ordered.
So they say. The world should be coming up on those first few warranty windows.
Found this.... https://www.motorbiscuit.com/man-buys-complete-undamaged-tesla-model-s-for-10000/ Amazing that car batteries are just hundreds of strung together, little batteries. I was expecting more.
I just read that. That’s amazing.
If the engineers are talking about fuel cells and not any kind of exotic battery, then all this might be going somewhere. Some of the newer technology batteries have been the source of some mighty fearsome fires, that cannot be extinguished by conventional means, they have to almost burn themselves out.
The REAL infrastructure this nation needs is a whole new network of thorium-fueled molten salt nuclear reactors, densely enough located that EVERY portion of the nation is served, without the use of far-flung electric grids that may stretch hundreds of miles, and definitely with no reliance on wind or solar power, which at best can only fill a small niche in the overall power generation picture in a country as vast as the United States.
With this much electrical generation capacity available, there would be sufficient means to extract hydrogen from water in quantities to meet the mobile power needs of the nation, WITHOUT the exotic battery technology.
You want “green” power? It is within our means, technologically and economically, but to get it the electricity has to be generated at sufficiently low enough cost to make it work.
We need but the will to overcome some widely held but unfounded superstitions concerning all forms of nuclear power. We do not need unicorns and rainbows.
and if they don't sell?
Market share will never get there if left solely to consumer demand.
It started as a fad an d people are slowly becoming conditioned. As usual the intellectually unwashed morons in this country do not recognize that electric power is not some magic coming from the wall socket. There are brownouts all over the country as it is. We don’t build nukes and disable coal plants. Where’s the power gonna come from and how does it get to where it’s needed? Is any of this addressed in the infrastructure bill fiasco? Nope. The stupidity in this country is mind boggling.
“I just want to know where all the power for these millions of EVs is going to come from. You don’t see them building new power plants, do you?”
The theory is EVs don’t need any new powerplants.
Our grid is designed to run at 100% capacity at 7pm on a Tuesday in July.
Every other time, especially at night, there is spare capacity. As long as EVs are set to charge on a timer peak usage will not increase much.
“Amazing that car batteries are just hundreds of strung together, little batteries”
All batteries over a few volts are strung-together cells.
Interesting article you posted. One mistake in it: the cells are tied together in series, not parallel.
I have a feeling that most of the time one of these 7000-cell batteries “wears out” it’s because all of the cells have worn out, but if your battery conks out the repair person could say it’s the whole battery ($12,000) when it’s really only a single cell which might cost $50. Of course there’s a lot of labor either way.
Teslas are ego cars which ain’t me.
Yep. EVs are great vehicles for most. The charging situation however will require some serious infrastructure that will take time. You can pump gas for four minutes and have enough fuel for 400 miles. EVs will take at least 30 minutes. Hopefully at home charging will be prevalent.
Assuming we are only using 60% of capacity at all the other times this theory is great. But how often are we at 90% or 96% or even 99% capacity? Now let’s create millions of new electricity users in 2030 when there is no major push for increased electricity production? The funny part is it’s natural gas electricity that fills the gap when demand surges, not wind or solar... But stupid greenies don’t know that.
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