Posted on 04/11/2021 11:37:08 AM PDT by wastedyears
I’m not excusing the cops behavior nor am I giving the driver a pass. He was disobeying a lawful police order and was argumentative. He was deliberately antagonistic and directly questioning their orders.
If he had exited the vehicle when asked and shown his credentials as requested he would have been on his way in 5 minutes.
Maybe they cut the video off before anything really bad was said (I doubt it, though) but what I heard was the officers repeatedly telling him to get out of the car or he was about to ride the lightening (get tased). When he told them he was a lieutenant, they said he should then understand following an order. Since when did it become the “norm” that a negotiation must take place in order for someone to leave their vehicle? Also, given that the guy kept driving, how were the cops supposed to determine he wasn't buying time to either ditch the car, hide a weapon or drugs?
*** Did the cops use the exact words “we’re going to execute you”? ***
“If someone pointing a gun at me says, “You’re fixing to ride the lightning” which is what one officer yelled, and is clearly audible on the full video, I will take that as a threat of his threat/intention/ desire to kill me.
Why would an Army junior officer risk his career for a payout? Would a lieutenant in the other branches do that too? Navy, Marines, Air Force, Coast Guard, Space Force?
I doubt 1 person in 50,000 knows the meaning of that expression. I’m almost 80 yrs old and ex military who served in Texas and I never heard it.
‘Conflicting orders’ is how they get away with killing people with zero consequences.
The Army officer didn't immediately get down on his hands and knees and lick-shine the officers' boots.
One of them did say "you're fixin' to ride the lightning." That's a euphemism for the electric chair.
“You need to watch the video. The things you say are false.”
I stated that I watched the entire video of the incident and observed officers that were overbearing on a felony stop of a Parked vehicle at a gas station.
As an officer I can see taking care of a potentially dangerous interaction of a moving violation.But this incident was not that.
The officers from what I recall didn’t tell the driver why they were there and would answer NO questions.
If the driver were threatening I would agree to pull him out of the vehicle with reasonable force.
These Officers were Not one thing and that’s being diplomatic. Which is something a lot of P.D.s to day are tring to instill in their officers.
You would know this if you ever served in that capacity.
*** after he drove an extra mile from where the cops lit up and after he refused to get out of the car? ***
He drove two minutes to a well lit place where it was safe to stop, and would likely be witnesses/ security cams. Pretty smart for his safety, and that of the officers.
In my area of TX more than a few LEO’s have been run over, and killed by motorists driving past a traffic stop on an unsafe shoulder of the road.
THANK YOU for your very reasonable answer.
We're losing our liberty because communists infiltrated government, education, media, entertainment, and "law enforcement" traded in their brown shirts for blue.
Why would an Army junior officer risk his career for a payday? I would imagine junior officers aren't in the "good ol' boys club."
I didn’t write the article, just posted it.
How much do you think the military gets paid? No one in the services ever gets rich or even moderately wealthy on what they pay. And with the disrespect for authority he showed he won’t get far. He is the type who will scream prejudice at the drop of a hat.
That is NOT what 'ride the lightning' means.
NBC doing all they can to stir the pot. Had this guy acted like a commissioned officer, none of this would be in the news. He chose to ignore and he ended up with a face full of pepper and hands in cuffs. But all ended well much to the hatred of NBC.
Same here. I didn’t see a temporary tag. I have it on a large screen.
I have to admit, I would be confused if I was told to keep my hands outside the window, and to open the door and unbuckle my seat belt. If the door was locked, I couldn’t open it using the outside door handle.
But I would never keep telling a police officer I don’t have to do what he told me to do, and that he has no right to touch me.
I never stood in a formation on active duty after I'd left Oakland Army Terminal. That no formation thing was more than 3 years.
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