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Open Letter to the WHO: Immediately Halt All Covid-19 Mass Vaccinations
Freedom Of Speech ^ | 3-12-2021 | Geert Vanden Bossche, DMV, PhD,

Posted on 03/29/2021 7:51:06 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables

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To: Basket_of_Deplorables; Jane Long; ransomnote; SecAmndmt; Secret Agent Man; Jan_Sobieski; ...

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3945985/posts?page=36#36

People need to be given warnings concerning the clear risk of bodily harm, including death, these experimental injections bring with them, but they are not being notified clearly . Completely criminal and unethical.
“Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease”

“...Results of the study: COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated. Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method, may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE).”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/


61 posted on 03/29/2021 9:43:03 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: David Chase

It should be DVM, not DMV.


62 posted on 03/29/2021 9:44:21 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

The way I read it is that the scientific community inadvertently, without a doubt well meaning, at least lets hope so, maybe in the process of creating a SUPER BUG against there is no defense. Very similar to a supposedly sterile and super clean hospital environment where nothing but the toughest viruses survive against which there is no remedy, and these infections are not uncommon and have killed many people. Or you are prescribed some anti-biotic against a bacterial infection and halfway through you stop the course of medication allowing some of the bacteria to survive which in turn may become almost impossible to kill, and will kill you instead. The sad part is that there are other ways and means to get a handle on this virus without interfering with our delicate immune system, instead a good portion of the public has been made to believe that the their only salvation lies in one of these controversial shots.


63 posted on 03/29/2021 9:44:44 AM PDT by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER )
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To: monkeyshine
Your example covers the loss of balance of saprophytes. Kill off a few and a normally harmless organism can replicate uncontrolled by competitors to become a pathogen.

The "vaccine escape" case is being covered here. The analogy to bacteria is taking a sub-therapeutic dose of an antibiotic. It kills some of the infection, leaving some in place that is resistant to the antibiotic. Eventually it selects for an organism fully resistant to the antibiotic. The mRNA "vaccine" selects for SARS-CoV-2 that match the sequence of spike protein on the mRNA. A variant that doesn't match "escapes" and continues to replicate and can be transmitted to other persons. Others infected by this "escaped" mutation will get sick whether "vaccinated" or not.

SARS-CoV-2 will continue to mutate with or without the "vaccines". In time, they will mutate enough to make the "vaccines" ineffective. The same phenomenon observed with flu viruses.

64 posted on 03/29/2021 9:47:31 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: gloryblaze

Mistakes like that are why I should wear my reading glasses even if they’re in the other room.

Thanks.


65 posted on 03/29/2021 9:52:51 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: Political Junkie Too

Actually, my reference was to the way rabid pro-vaxxers think of people who don’t support vaccination to the degree I mentioned. In other words, if you don’t worship at the altar of vaccination, you’re an anti-vaxxer.


66 posted on 03/29/2021 10:11:01 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: pcpa

I tend to agree. The average physician nowadays is more a technician than anything else, who has spent his entire career parroting what other people have told him, unthinkingly and uncritically.


67 posted on 03/29/2021 10:13:02 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

This guy believes that we shouldn’t vaccinate people during a pandemic. We should wait until the pandemic is over, then we can vaccinate. Now does this make sense to anyone who isn’t an anti-vaxxer.


68 posted on 03/29/2021 10:20:34 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
See my post #59. He believes in vaccination; he just thinks this vaccination regime is based on the wrong cell.

-PJ

69 posted on 03/29/2021 10:21:41 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Political Junkie Too wrote: “See my post #59. He believes in vaccination; he just thinks this vaccination regime is based on the wrong cell.”

Just like many ant-vaxxers, he’s not against vaccinations, just this vaccine. Of course, the vast majority of healthcare professionals disagree with him.


70 posted on 03/29/2021 10:58:37 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
I'm no expert, but I read his letter. Did you?

He doesn't seem like "many anti-vaxxers" to me, he seems to be a bit more educated on the subject than "many."

Do you question the science he presented in his letter, or just blanketly react to opposition?

Of course, the vast majority of healthcare professionals disagree with him.

I don't know about the "of course" part as that seems to be a blanket rejection, but he says in his letter:

Last Monday, I provided international health organizations, including the WHO, with my analysis of the current pandemic as based on scientifically informed insights in the immune biology of Covid-19. Given the level of emergency, I urged them to consider my concerns and to initiate a debate on the detrimental consequences of further ‘viral immune escape’...

While there is no time to spare, I have not received any feedback thus far. Experts and politicians have remained silent while obviously still eager to talk about relaxing infection prevention rules and ‘springtime freedom’...

While one can barely make any incorrect scientific statements without being criticized by peers, it seems like the elite of scientists who are currently advising our world leaders prefer to stay silent. Sufficient scientific evidence has been brought to the table.

Unfortunately, it remains untouched by those who have the power to act.

He's presenting arguments that vaccines based on NK cells are the appropriate approach because they are a part of the body's natural immunity system for dealing with general viral attacks. He says that the current targeted approach trains the COVID-19 virus to mutate to "escape" the vaccine, which puts the general population more at risk of a "super-bug" that will move to the less immune portions of the population.

I'm just looking for answers to reasonably posed questions by recognized experts in their fields. I would be more persuaded by point-by-point refutations of the science he presented than vague "of course" outright rejections.

-PJ

71 posted on 03/29/2021 11:16:51 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
However, what will Medicare demand of me?

I've been on Medicare for over 10 years and haven't heard peep from them, thus far.

Please note the last two words in the previous sentence :)

72 posted on 03/29/2021 11:23:13 AM PDT by upchuck (Republicans better realize the 74 million Trump supporters are not 74 million GOP supporters.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Sorry folks all future vaccines are canceled.

Is that what the world renowned Doctor is advocating?
73 posted on 03/29/2021 11:30:48 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: upchuck

Thank you! :)


74 posted on 03/29/2021 11:46:32 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Myrddin

Thanks for the explanation. I imagine viral mutations are quite common and most relatively benign - minor changes as they replicate billions of times. Some of those mutations obviously not so benign.

I get that a vaccine primes the immune system to recognize the pathogen so that the immune system “learns” how to attack it quickly before it and/or the immune system goes out of control. So my question is, are various mutations of this (or any) virus competing for resources in their hosts? In other words, the 99.9% analogy. If a vaccine helps the body to kill off 99.9% of the virus does that leave a sort of empty vessel in which the 0.1% of mutant viruses can then take over the host?

Or are we just talking about, basically, a new virus that may spread later because the vaccines don’t help against the mutation?

I get that there is a Darwinian aspect to this; survival of the fittest virus mutation. Do viruses themselves “learn” to mutate to avoid attack by the immune system or just some natural phenomenon having to do with replicating so many times (or some 3rd factor causing a mutation)?


75 posted on 03/29/2021 12:09:52 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I *think* he’s saying stop the covid vaccines - as opposed to stop all vaccines. But either way it ain’t happening.


76 posted on 03/29/2021 12:13:58 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Labyrinthos

Thank you for posting the information. For us non-medical people it is important to get different opinions on all sides of the debate. The fact that many Doctors around the globe have been censored and cancelled regarding their opinions on the COVID vaccines concerns thinking people.


77 posted on 03/29/2021 12:14:17 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables
I've read this a couple of times, and I can't follow his logic. I would say that if a vaccine targeted NK cells, you could write up a similar argument. The biggest question with this "novel" vaccine method, is it weakening your normal body defense(s) against this virus or virus variants? This author is implying that, but I don't understand his logic.

Another question - why are the previous failures at corona virus vaccines, that showed antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) not applicable with this vaccine method (or are they?)?
78 posted on 03/29/2021 12:45:56 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
1) The people controlling the world want the population to continue to grow because capitalism is essentially a Ponzi scheme...

2) The people controlling the world want the population to crash because they want the world for themselves...

Which is it?


The threat of the Ponzi being exposed is only a threat if there are people to be angry about it. If you go from 7 billion people to 500 million overnight, your Ponzi exposure problems are effectively solved.
79 posted on 03/29/2021 1:10:47 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Erik Latranyi
Most virologists do not see the dangers.

How do you know this? How do you have ANY idea what percentage of virologists in the world see dangers with these vaccines?

"'Cause CNN told me so."
80 posted on 03/29/2021 1:13:15 PM PDT by fr_freak
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