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GOP LAWMAKER EYES DEMOLISHING FOUR NW DAMS
Oregon Catalyst ^ | February 10, 2021 | Taxpayer Association of Oregon Foundation

Posted on 02/10/2021 11:07:01 AM PST by Twotone

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To: cuban leaf
This has to be a publicity stunt

Not a stunt. Something else. Begins with a C

https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2016/apr/6/deal-done-and-dams-are-coming-down-congressman-say/

61 posted on 02/10/2021 12:29:26 PM PST by MurrietaMadman (Keep in mind, the Gates of hell shall not prevail against you.)
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To: Myrddin

You do not need irrigation, or vast reaches of farmland when there are only 500 million people alive on this planet.

The only thing we need to know is that Evil tells you what they plan on. They absolutely mean it. With very little need for labor, and the spoils of the land and air split up between “the royals of the future”, who needs 7 billion? What is the use of earnings, when money is nothing but a series of 1’s and 0’s?


62 posted on 02/10/2021 12:30:31 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer, )
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To: Myrddin

You do not need irrigation, or vast reaches of farmland when there are only 500 million people alive on this planet.

The only thing we need to know is that Evil tells you what they plan on. They absolutely mean it. With very little need for labor, and the spoils of the land and air split up between “the royals of the future”, who needs 7 billion? What is the use of earnings, when money is nothing but a series of 1’s and 0’s?


63 posted on 02/10/2021 12:32:57 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer, )
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

A wise leadership might push thorium reactor development.

We’re not apt to find wise leadership anywhere on earth.


64 posted on 02/10/2021 12:35:27 PM PST by null and void (We're the MSM, we decide what news you can see, and what you can not see, but don't call us Not Sees)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
"The biggest problem seems to be too many seals, who are eating too many salmon."

Yeah, that's what I think. There was an article about this issue in my local paper a couple of years ago, when a couple of Indian tribes were asking for one or more of the Columbia River dams to be removed. The decline in the salmon population is recent, and probably has more to do with the seals/sea lions and whales than the dams.
65 posted on 02/10/2021 12:37:24 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Red Badger
Do Salmon actually get to Idaho? Thats way farther upstream than I ever heard of.

BTW, I would think Idahoens would be smarter than this...

66 posted on 02/10/2021 12:39:47 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Magnum44
Do Salmon actually get to Idaho?

Fresh or frozen, makes no difference to me...............

67 posted on 02/10/2021 12:40:48 PM PST by Red Badger (SLEAZIN' is the REASON for the TREASON .................................)
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To: PGR88
"Are they planning on replacing the electricity from another source?"

I don't know what other source it would be; Eastern Washington is already filled with wind farms. Maybe they'll put some wind turbines on Mt. Rainier.
68 posted on 02/10/2021 12:40:50 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You don’t know me, but what I write is true on the salmon runs.

1) Natives now use powered boats to net the mouths of the rivers, getting first chance. This is in concert with purse seiners they use in the Puget Sound, Hood Canal, Straits of Juan de Fuca and in the Pacific ocean.

2) You can commonly see pickup trucks full of netted salmon sitting at taverns or a casino, rotting because someone was thirsty.

3) On the Black water river near here, they catch the salmon, gut them for the Roe (eggs) and leave the carcasses on the river bank to rot.

When I say net the rivers, I mean cover them from bank to bank. The largest and best Salmon are of course easiest to harvest. So the fish that escape, are smaller less hardy and able to spawn naturally. Of course the blame for smaller fish runs falls to white man. We “destroy the habitat and over harvest”. Yet non-tribal fishermen are allowed only a few days to fish a year. Non-tribal are not allowed to catch and keep fish that are not from a hatchery, while tribal members take what they want.

I recall the days of yore, back to the 1970’s. Fishing with a line, you could catch 40-50 and even 70 lb fish in Hood Canal. I know because my Mother won a Derby there with a 67 lb King. Now if you get a 6 lb salmon you are a superstar.

After the Boldt decision came in that gave tribes a 50% share of salmon, the privately owned salmon enterprises went belly up. After one day of fishing and having little success the year after this “landmark decision” was instituted, we followed a line of dead salmon back to the dock. Just floating in the water. The Indians had thrown back the smaller fish, because they got more money for big fish when selling them, or the boat was overfull and was in danger of “floundering”.

Fishermen know the problems, and it is not the dams, or logging.


69 posted on 02/10/2021 12:52:20 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer, )
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To: Twotone

Sounds good to me. They’ll need a big new coal-fired power plant to replace the lost hydroelectric power. And they’ll need beautiful American coal to fire that plant. A win-win all around!!!


70 posted on 02/10/2021 1:02:39 PM PST by rhinohunter
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To: central_va

“We could uber lift each individual salmon to the spawning grounds cheaper that that.”

I was working at a small dam site (to add a fish ladder) and some guys had a small water tanker. They would net the fish and take them upstream. They figured every little bit helps. They were volunteers (fishermen).

I don’t recall exactly but I think they had to destroy some of the fish but I don’t recall why. Maybe they didn’t want hatchery fish getting upstream into the “wild”. I do recall that they lamented that they were just killed and tossed, rather than being able to be taken home and eaten or given away to the senior center or what not. (Some law).


71 posted on 02/10/2021 1:05:23 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: steve86

I looked up all of those dams. They are huge, like the one in your image. One or more fish ladders, boat passage, etc. I’m guessing their removal isn’t so much as to allow the fish to go by, but to get rid of the “lakes” behind the dams and make the river better habitat for spawning.

Driving through eastern Washington I always remind the kids when looking at the green crops growing (in among the brown grass and sage brush) - none of this would be possible without those dams.


72 posted on 02/10/2021 1:14:28 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: central_va

Their ideological beliefs crash into each other when it
comes to energy and the environment.

They destroy dams to free up mother nature, and kill off oil
reasoning it’s killing the planet. They’ve done away with
any natural gas fixtures in new homes. Then they push
electric cars that will require far more electricity from
the grid.

We’re already having power problems, and this is going to
drive us even deeper into them.

I recommend folks find a way to generate their own power
as soon as they can.

I can’t provide for an electric car yet, but I can
develop that over time, it would be a plus.

ICE cars are going away, and if folks still have an old
one, they are going to pay incredible prices per cup.


73 posted on 02/10/2021 1:16:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Republican Party is dead. Long live the Founders Party.)
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To: steve86

Thanks. The problem has already been solved, then. The Congressman is a numbnutz.


74 posted on 02/10/2021 1:18:35 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (GOP-free since 10/9/20)
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To: Twotone

I don’t know what’s up with Idaho. A former governor there, Butch Otter, was also one of the Congressmen who caved to Tom Delay’s extortion-o-rama during the three hour marathon House vote for the Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit.


75 posted on 02/10/2021 1:21:59 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (GOP-free since 10/9/20)
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To: Glad2bnuts

Why in heck would Washington state get rid of natural gas plants??? They emit half the carbon dioxide per kilowatt hour that coal plants do.

Meanwhile, when the solar and wind fail, the good pipple of Washington state can then emit carbon dioxide by necessarily lighting their own fires to keep warm in wintertime.

On the bright side, it’s also plant food. Dumb Dumbs running that state.


76 posted on 02/10/2021 1:25:14 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (GOP-free since 10/9/20)
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To: frank ballenger

That would be Exit 69 on I-75...


77 posted on 02/10/2021 1:27:25 PM PST by dakine
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To: 21twelve

“Driving through eastern Washington I always remind the kids when looking at the green crops growing (in among the brown grass and sage brush) - none of this would be possible without those dams”

That’s very true — where I’m sitting right now — in a Mcdonald’s parking lot, actually, was previously barren shrub-steppe with 6 annual inches of precipitation and nary a tree in sight (except right next to the river).


78 posted on 02/10/2021 1:28:49 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: central_va

I literally laughed out loud at that, than realized how true it is.


79 posted on 02/10/2021 1:53:06 PM PST by Hildy (In an unforgiving world, only the shameless survive.)
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To: PGR88

No.

It seems the left does not want us to have a truly reliable green source of energy.


80 posted on 02/10/2021 2:12:46 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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