'Dr. Jill' and the Dangers of Scientism

Frontpagemagazine ^ | Dec 21, 2020 | Bruce Thornton

[calenel]

“Doctor” is the appropriate title for virtually any person with a Ph.D.

Just because Doctor of Education is the garbage degree at that level (and, yes, there is science to education, just liberals are as confused about that as they are about bathrooms) does not mean a doctorate is worthless for any discipline but medicine.

FWIW, I have returned to school after 30 years of software development to pursue a M.D. Currently double-majoring in math and biology as an undergrad.

[Honorary Serb]

....usually the demand to be called “Doctor” when one is not an M.D. suggests insecurity or unseemly vanity.....

Unless one has a hard-earned Ph.D., as I do!!!!

My university students ALWAYS knew to call me “Doctor”, without my asking!!!! The exceptions were the graduate students who worked with me in the lab, with whom I was on a first-name basis. This is standard throughout academia, and in industry as well.

Should EdDs be called “Doctor”? I think not!!!!

The other issue is those people who think that only those who have delivered a child should be called “Doctor”. Well, nurse midwives deliver babies on a regular basis, and (unlike MD ob/gyns) are never called “Doctor”! Nevertheless, this does not get jill biden off the hook!!

[cymbeline]

“Chronicle of Higher Education style guide”

I went to chronicle.com and couldn’t find their style guide. Can you point me to it? I’d like to see their “style” requirements”.

[alternatives?]

I would call her “cheater”. Works in a couple of dimensions.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

WILMINGTON, DE—As Dr. Jill Biden and her husband went out to eat over the weekend, a man began choking on his Denver omelet. But lucky for him, Dr. Jill Biden was there, and she is a doctor.

"We need a doctor here!" cried a waiter. "Is there a doctor in the house?"

Dr. Jill Biden sprang into action. "I'm a doctor!" she said, rushing over. "I'm going to need a podium and a microphone, stat!" After a busboy hurried over with the life-saving tools she would need, Dr. Jill Biden thanked him and then began delivering a speech on meeting students' needs at the community college level.

"Thank you for having me here today," Dr. Jill Biden said as the bewildered choking man tried to call for a "real doctor," since he was obviously a misogynistic bigot. "Webster's Dictionary defines education as the action or process of educating." As she continued her intro, the man's face started to turn purple.

"There are three reasons community college being accessible for all is a net gain to society," Dr. Jill Biden said as the man started to lose consciousness. "First, good classes are good for people. We must increase positive educational outcomes by offering good classes for low or no cost. Good classes may include everything from tennis courses and physical education to math and even science."

"In conclusion, community college is good," Dr. Jill Biden said fifteen minutes later, after the man had died. "Thank you."

Dr. Ben Carson also happened to be there but was asked not to interfere as the media assured everyone he's not a real doctor.

https://babylonbee.com/news/man-chokes-in-restaurant-dr-jill-biden-springs-into-action-to-deliver-educational-lecture

[A Navy Vet]

Right, he called her Ma’am. Of course she didn’t realize having no experience with military, that is the equivalent to Sir. Military does not always use the rank name depending on the course of a conversation or the situation. A quick Ma’am or Sir is still as respectful - unless protocol has changed since my days.

[Sivad]

Jilldo and the dildo......at a basement near you!

[Lopeover]

The word for her is pretentious.

[TChad]

Of course, pointing out that Jill Biden’s degree is unimpressive constitutes — wait for it — SEXISM!

[elteemike]

This is my own personal favorite photo of the couple, Nicolae and Elena Ceacescu:

https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/long-reads/ceausescu-romania-bucharest-communism-politics-history-a9234806.html

It’s taken from their best side, backs to the wall as all Communist dictators deserve...

[boop]

I'm an M.D.

I've always told my staff that they can call me by my first name if there are no patients around.

But they don't.

It's always "Dr. P".

I call fellow M.D.s by their first names when I work with them.

But I call my own doctor "Doctor T".

I'd feel weird calling him by his first name.

Outside of the office, I don't care what people call me.

"Mr." is fine.

It would be acting like a dick if I insisted people call me "doctor".

[lewislynn]

However, other than Shelton on "Big Bang Theory" TV show very few introduce themselves as Doctor so and so unless in an academia setting.

If those morons on that show are any indication of what our "scientists" are like, it's no wonder we're being beat by the rest of the world.

AND, Penney going for that smirking, squinty eyed dimwit is all looks and no brains real life I guess? And don't get me started on that fingernails on a chalkboard screeching little blonde.

OH, and why can't at least one of those brilliant scientist/engineers fix the frigg'n elevator? Or at least call a repairman? Or better yet, Code Enforcement.

Oh, wait don't tell me, it's because it's the landlord's job.

The un-funniest, absolute worst, stupidest show on TV and it's in rerun over and over and over.

[Honorary Serb]

Anyone trained in the Heimlich maneuver—whether a Doctor or not—could have helped that choking man!! And Ben Carson is a REAL MD!!!!

If any student submitted a botched, misspelled doctoral thesis with substandard methodology like jill biden’s—in almost any field—their thesis advisor and their entire thesis defense committee would have rejected it outright. The student would have been asked to leave without a degree, or at best a “consolation” master’s degree. A good thesis advisor would have gotten the student to correct their research, long before submitting the “completed” thesis for approval.

How jill biden get away with receiving an EdD is not understandable. That’s even in the not so rigorous field of “education”. But perhaps it was just because she was a Senator’s wife, or joe biden just paid them off.

In any case, jill biden has NO RIGHT to insist on being called “Doctor”. And her Dim defenders have no right to accuse those who object of sexism or right-wing bias!!!!

[Mom MD]

If you have been around people that brilliant you know it’s spot on. Intelligence rarely equals common sense.

[Mom MD]

I am actually prouder of the Mrs and mom title than the Dr title. I always have staff call me by my first name unless around patients. Some of the older nurses just can’t bring themselves to call me by my first name but eventually I win them over.... We work as a team. My last name is quite difficult for my elderly patients who either call me Dr K or Dr my first name. I find those most insistent in the titles are the least secure and most incompetent or they are just plain jerks

[VanShuyten]

Hey Jill, if the people in the media insist on calling you “Doctor”, I insist both they and you call me “Master”!

[A Navy Vet]

"The un-funniest, absolute worst, stupidest show on TV and it's in rerun over and over and over."

Sorry, I thought it was funny in the early episodes. Shows my intelligence...haha. I also thought Two and a Half Men was funny early on. Now, that puts me in the category of moron.

[organicchemist]

This is not easy to find and I can’t point you directly to it. I learned this in a historical context. Teresa Sullivan was president at the University of Virginia and ran into major headwinds in efforts to change things around. She survived the brouhaha, but there was massive back and forth for several years. In articles on the matter, many feminist letter writers decried that she ws referred to as Ms. not Dr. The convention I described was explained several times but had to be repeated to each outraged soul.
As she left the University in 2017, the Chronicle reported it
https://www.chronicle.com/article/after-a-tumultuous-7-years-teresa-sullivan-will-leave-uva/
and always used Ms. not doctor. BTW, the University of Virginia also used the term MS in 2018 in recapping her tenure, so it is not unusual to not use the Dr (she has a Ph. D.) See
https://www.virginia.edu/aboutuva/presidents/sullivan

[dfwgator]

Now that’s what I call, “Term Limits”.

[Elsie]

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