Posted on 10/23/2020 9:09:03 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
The democrats believe these numbers are real!!
I do think that plays into it.
This paranoia is not OK, unless one supports doing the like to teen drivers and the flu, which are more deadly to those under 18 than Covid-19.
An estimated 1,200 children died in the 2012-2013 flu season [https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/faq.htm] as of Oct 23 2020 the CDC says that there have been only 101 COVID-assigned deaths among children under 18 [https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics] out of almost 230,000 COVID-19 deaths, and with 92% of all Covid-19 deaths being among those 55 and older [https://lawliberty.org/covids-age-discrimination], with almost all of such having 2 or more Comorbidities [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities] [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7327471]
In addition, less than 10 percent of domestic COVID-19 cases have been among children under 18 (reported 9–11) [https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200910/Over-half-a-million-reported-child-COVID-19-cases-in-the-United-States.aspx] while the vast majority of all persons with severe COVID tend to have other risk factors.[https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e3.htm?s_cid=mm6915e3_w] Furthermore up to 90% of persons testing positive via PCR tests have such a low viral load that they are not likely to be contagious, [https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html]
Moreover, the long-term costs in physical and mental health and finances due to this all-ages drastic restrictions when are tremendous.[https://therevolutionaryact.com/studies-the-shutdown-is-not-lives-vs-dollars-its-lives-vs-lives]
Then the article you saw was trying to push an agenda by giving you a specific set of data that matched a narrative the author wanted you to believe.
If you look at previous flu seasons, you see that activity will sometimes spike up earlier (in October), but often doesn’t really pick up until November or December. The peak of flu season also shifts, as does the end. Sometimes it’s over by March. Sometimes it drags on into May. Outside of flu season, cases drop significantly. There are still some single digit numbers of cases in the summer, but across 330 million people, that’s virtually nonexistent.
More info here: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season.htm
Sept 7th, 9th, and 29th, Oct 13th, 14th, 20th, 21st, and 22nd all had over 10 deaths. I agree with your argument about lockdowns because I think they do a lot more harm than good. But your argument gets undercut when you make statements that are demonstrably inaccurate. Also in New Jersey, cases have risen steadily since early September and deaths have risen steadily since early October (looking at 7-day averages). Again, not a reason to shut anything down. But arguing from a place of fact makes the argument much stronger. My focus is always on the risk/benefit. In this case, the risk is of putting so many businesses OUT of business and putting so many families INTO poverty. Poverty, by the way, being the number one killer of human beings on Earth. And the benefits are highly limited in terms of controlling transmission as people just funnel into the places that aren't closed like grocery stores.
I agree with all that but last year still had flu numbers in October and this year doesn’t so far.
Since the end of September, there have been 36,000 Influenza tests performed and 121 tests that returned positive. So there’s activity, it just isn’t high yet. New Mexico, Idaho, Missouri, Iowa, and Oregon are all seeing flu activity begin to increase in October.
More info here: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
It’s going to be “All Rona, All The Time” up to the election.
When I looked at the article with the graphs a week or so ago I think it said 60 some cases in the country. I know this is the time of year the flu generally kicks off. Not anything to do with this but I was pretty sick in Afghanistan in January and the medical folks told me it was an unknown virus. Is it still counted as flu if they can’t identify it? Just curious.
But if you want to go with actual daily numbers since I didn't say 'the seven day moving avage we can do that. If I had said 'under 10 for all but 8 days, which were all under 20 deaths' would that really make my point invalid and we are indeed having a COVID problem in NJ? We were having a problem when it was around 300 deaths a day, not now. Seems pedantic to me to quibble over whether deaths were 9 or 16 on a few days along the way.
We've had over roughly 18,000 or more cases in the state every day since mid August. Weigh that against 'the death figures. My point stands, cases do not translate into deaths, period, and should not be replacing that as the yardstick.
But predictably, politicians will never voluntarily return the power they seized. They are clinging to it like they would a life preserver in they fell overboard at sea with 30 foot swells. They will find some metric to justify it, or they'll invent a new public health crisis like racism or global warming and keep them to 'fight' that.
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