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Marine F-35B And KC-130J Collide And Crash In Southern California (Updated)
The War Zone ^ | 9/29/2020 | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 09/30/2020 6:05:25 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

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To: GranTorino
Which engines are # 3&4? Raider 50 said those were the two out. Crash picture looks like two on right have some damage from landing or collision.

You know, you may be right. I can't find a definitive reference, but I believe the engines are numbered from 1 to 4 from port outboard to starboard outboard.

It could very well be that the collision was with the starboard engines or wing, and the damage to the port side (prop on #1, missing refueling pod,) occurred during the wheels up landing.

Good eye!

21 posted on 09/30/2020 7:11:58 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: HighSierra5

You’re probably correct. I’d ride that herc anyday...

A few engine swaps, redhorse compacts 800 ft of the field, strap on jato bottles and away we go!


22 posted on 09/30/2020 7:18:58 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Yo-Yo

Interesting that the right outboard engine looks really messed up, and the left outboard is missing a couple of blades.

Looks like the pilot did a great job getting it down.


23 posted on 09/30/2020 7:45:33 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Yo-Yo
To me, that’s one of the most dangerous things you can do in an airplane: midair refueling a fast jet behind a slow, 4 engine turboprop on a hot, bumpy day.

Between the wing tip vortices and the prop vortices and the usual turbulence on a hot day, there are simply too many things trying to kill you.

That pilots do this day and night in all sorts of weather so successfully and with so few accidents is a testament to their skill and our ingenuity.

They make it look easy even when it’s not.

And even when it went terribly wrong, they all walked away to try again another day.

Thank YOU, God! The training never stops.

24 posted on 09/30/2020 8:45:28 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA
Yep, that is a difficult task.

Now, try it in a helicopter with a 79 foot diameter main rotor above you and a 14 ton LAV-25 on your sling hooks!


25 posted on 09/30/2020 9:54:26 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less!)
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To: Yo-Yo

No visible structural damage. Change out the engines, get the landing gear back to function, fly it out of there.

The pilot brought it down soft as a (really big) feather. Skills.


26 posted on 09/30/2020 10:31:29 AM PDT by lurk
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To: GranTorino; Yo-Yo

Left outboard engine is #1, right outboard is #4.


27 posted on 09/30/2020 3:27:04 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Yo-Yo

From Juan Browne/”Blanco Lirio”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u19R0zfusiQ


28 posted on 09/30/2020 3:29:50 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Thank goodness the crew is safe.


29 posted on 09/30/2020 4:34:18 PM PDT by moovova
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