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Trafalgar Group polls: outliers with uncanny knack for accurately sampling Trump vote
Just the News ^ | 9/21/20 | Carrie Sheffield

Posted on 09/22/2020 8:40:40 AM PDT by chiller

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To: chiller

Even Trafalgar can’t take into account the vote manipulation and manufacture that is going to be a far bigger factor this time than ever before.


21 posted on 09/22/2020 9:40:55 AM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe Lhe)
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To: chiller

I am not sure Congress can make rules about voting at all. The Constitution leaves voting to the states. And the next Congress will be a result of the great wave of vote harvesting, vote addition and vote losing that will occur in both the Presidential and the Congressional elections.I trust Trump has something up his sleeve to negate the worst effects of Democrat vote manipulation but if he does not then the Democrats may well “win” all up and down the ballot.


22 posted on 09/22/2020 9:45:45 AM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe Ltee)
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To: wildcard_redneck

In my city speaking out for the Democrats can get you avoided by polite society.Black Dems express their views but do not get obstreperous about it. There are quite a few Trump votes in the local black community, not a majority of them, to be sure, but more than one might normally expect and some of them will talk about it, even.


23 posted on 09/22/2020 9:50:19 AM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe Ler)
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To: MulberryDraw

I did answer the phone for a poll. The only question I was asked was how likely I was to vote in the November Presidential election. When I answered that only death would keep me from voting. My “poll” abruptly stopped. The poll was from the Beto PAC. Guess they knew who I would be voting for in the election.


24 posted on 09/22/2020 9:53:40 AM PDT by FoundinTexas
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To: Wonder Warthog

Mail in ballots will be delivered by members of the Postal Union which has come out forcefully for Biden. Mailmen sometimes dump mail if they feel they are overworked or for other reasons. I expect they will all have maps or lists of known Republican neighborhoods and enclaves and such mail can be short circuited or mistakenly delivered o Democrat Party hqs for further processing.


25 posted on 09/22/2020 9:54:04 AM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe Lh)
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To: MulberryDraw

I have t answer my land-line phone for reasons of my job. When I pick it up and say hello and get no answer for 2 seconds or get some other indication that it is a robo or other advertising call I lay it face down on the table and let the person or the tape talk to the tabletop. When it goes beep beep beep I hang it up.


26 posted on 09/22/2020 9:57:13 AM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe BB)
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To: FoundinTexas

I got a text from the Beto PAC. I said I’m voting for Kanye West. Obviously I’m voting for Trump, but I’d prefer they have bad data. Lol.


27 posted on 09/22/2020 9:57:47 AM PDT by ksm1
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To: chiller
Bevan wrote. "He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly's firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America."

Both those races were nail biters... Rather than DeSantis we could have been saddled with a black drug addict into S&M cocaine fueled sex with white body builders. A liar and thug... If Gillum had won - Florida would have burned - been looted, and our police attacked. Thank God Bloomberg hadn't come to sign up as many criminals as he could find for that election.

28 posted on 09/22/2020 10:09:21 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats stopped burning, rioting & looting when polls showed it wasn't popular with voters.)
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To: chiller

Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania.....the race is already over if Trump wins those states again. IIRC, Trafalgar had Trump clearly ahead in Arizona too. Trump has 6 weeks to pick up half a point in Minnesota.

It looks really good if this holds.


29 posted on 09/22/2020 10:15:36 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: 1Old Pro

Hannity, Tucker, and Laura are ok, but don’t forget this is the same FOX that silenced Newt about George Soros.


30 posted on 09/22/2020 10:24:35 AM PDT by EvilCapitalist (Fill that seat!)
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To: chiller

This is a crazy year for pollsters, even ones like Trafalgar who make a good faith effort to get it right. College students are at home. The Democrats are not organizing or door-knocking in person. Many Democrats are in groups that are scared of their own shadows b/c of China Virus. China Virus has impacted Trump’s numbers. Riots. Riots making more “shy” Trump voters. Good freaking luck with polling in this mess.


31 posted on 09/22/2020 11:14:51 AM PDT by bort
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To: chiller

Trump will have a hard time pulling ahead of the margin of fraud if those numbers are correct for PA, MI and WI.


32 posted on 09/22/2020 11:23:04 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: arthurus

One way or another, ballot harvesting must become illegal. The feds have limited jurisdiction pertaining to individual states voting procedures, but I believe they do have some as they relate to national elections, iirc. If it’s too limited, new legislation is mandatory.


33 posted on 09/22/2020 11:25:09 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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To: chiller

Harvesting is only one method. Trump won in 2016 because the Republican governor of Florida shut down a massive vote manufacturing operation in Broward County. It is likely that that method will be characteristic of all the big Democrat run cities in the country. They have used that method as a normal thing in certain cities in a few states and Trump won Pennsylvania because they did not judge how many they would need soon enough. The coming election will be tied in every court the Democrats can get to with the intention of dragging out the count while they announce on the evening of voting day that Biden has won and shutting off social media altogether to anything but that claim.That will be followed by cries and demands that the military(Obama’s generals) remove Trumpeven before January 21. Trump will be shut off because” he is not the President anymore” and the radio and TV hosts will be shut off by their networks and stations, probably even those on Fox. Fox is not on our side at all except that, unlike CNN, Fox has to rely on the market to survive and thus has to keep guys like Hannity and others who bring in the money they have to have to keep going.


34 posted on 09/22/2020 12:05:00 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe BBd)
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To: arthurus
"I expect they will all have maps or lists of known Republican neighborhoods and enclaves and such mail can be short circuited or mistakenly delivered o Democrat Party hqs for further processing."

Unlikely in the extreme. I doubt even the federal government has demographic information as fine-grained as that.

35 posted on 09/22/2020 12:25:25 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

FedGov won’t be providing them. The DNC or other Democrat org or Soros org will. This is the Union I am talking about, not the USPS. Think about it a minute. Don’t just react. I am not talking about paper maps, even, but Iphone apps.


36 posted on 09/22/2020 12:52:23 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe DD)
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To: FLT-bird

They have Biden leading PA.


37 posted on 09/22/2020 2:25:06 PM PDT by trublu
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To: arthurus

If even the FedGov doesn’t have information that detailed, neither the DNC or Soros orgs are likely to. My comment stands.


38 posted on 09/23/2020 4:31:44 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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