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Why we're still arguing about Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for Covid-19
Washington Examiner ^ | 08/08/2020 | Jeremy Beaman

Posted on 08/08/2020 9:52:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: CMailBag

Not really.

Sure, there is Trump hate and they are working to try to defeat him and his economy.

But he has expressly said that it is because he said it is good, without acknowledging at all the larger mRNA forced vaccine and country takeover that is being advanced.

Or his own ongoing role in allowing that to happen.


21 posted on 08/08/2020 10:36:45 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Raycpa

“””You were on a ship with Fauci and there is a man overboard who cannot swim. There is no life saver available but there is a wooden table nearby. You don’t know whether it will float but you think its worth a try and attempt to throw it overboard.

That is when Fauci comes and stops you and scolds you that the table has not been subject to proper testing protocols and could be dangerous to the man overboard if it sinks.

Choice 1: You thank Fauci for almost causing the man harm and make Fauci your hero.

Choice 2: You throw the table anyways.”””


Choice 3: Throw the table overboard. Punch Little Napolean Fauci in the face. Wait a couple of minutes and then throw Fauci overboard so he will not be able to swim back to the table.


22 posted on 08/08/2020 10:37:05 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: SeekAndFind

mebbe because Pharma runs the FDA...and they’re pissed they haven’t been able to get a piece of the action

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnlamattina/2018/06/28/the-biopharmaceutical-industry-provides-75-of-the-fdas-drug-review-budget-is-this-a-problem/

simple solution is NOT to let the drug companies run the FDA....duh!!


23 posted on 08/08/2020 10:40:34 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: SeekAndFind

Exactly. ! The JURY IS NOT OUT. NO MORE STUPID STUDies !

actually can we just BAN democrats????? And the media ?

Let’s just MUZZLE them. Or a Far far away tropical island


24 posted on 08/08/2020 10:41:03 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv-mint you get is the Trump winning express ! Yea haw ! Trump pence II!)
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To: Hostage

“””Fauci is a federal bureaucrat who hasn’t seen a patient in more than 30 years. He is a poster boy for DC corruption.

Giroir is a bureaucrat Admiral in the public health venue. His background was mixed in vaccine development, he was forced out of his vaccine development job in Texas. He quoted the VA study on HCQ now known to be fraudulent. He’s hardly a prominent anything to weigh in on HCQ.”””


Fauci and Girior have never seen a patient. Both are career medical bureaucrats. It is easy for them to be callous when they have never looked a sick person in the eyes and told them bad news.

On the other hand we have many, many Front Line Doctors who do look a person in the eyes and tell them they have covid and HCQ may help.


25 posted on 08/08/2020 10:42:26 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: impactplayer

RE: he recommends zinc and querceitn, which is available in local health food stores. He says the querceitn is just as effective without any of the side effects.

Thanks for the information.

What is the good doctor’s recommended daily dosage for both Quercetin and Zinc for an uninfected person to get protection?


26 posted on 08/08/2020 10:43:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

IIRC Fauci did his residency in NYC—and then went into the bureaucracy.


27 posted on 08/08/2020 10:43:58 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: my job

If he swims like he throws a baseball they’ll both be in Davey Jones Locker.


28 posted on 08/08/2020 10:52:02 AM PDT by xp38
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To: discostu

Many countries either adopted or declined early treatment with HCQ, forming a large country-randomized controlled trial with 2.0 billion people in the treatment group and 663 million in the control group. As of August 8, 2020, an average of 39.6/million in the treatment group have died, and 443.7/million in the control group, relative risk 0.089. After adjustments, treatment and control deaths become 82.0/million and 637.0/million, relative risk 0.13. Confounding factors affect this estimate, including varying degrees of spread between countries. Accounting for predicted changes in spread, we estimate a relative risk of 0.21. The treatment group has a 79.1% lower death rate. We examined diabetes, obesity, hypertension, life expectancy, population density, urbanization, testing level, and intervention level, which do not account for the effect observed.

https://hcqtrial.com/plot/plot1ax.svg

Oh it works OK!!!! Almost 80% lower death rate whne used early


29 posted on 08/08/2020 10:52:37 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: SeekAndFind
Re: 26

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3871057/posts

Mrs. Don-o posted this a couple of days ago. Sorry that the link is not formatted - I can’t easily do this on my iPad.

30 posted on 08/08/2020 10:57:41 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: 9YearLurker

“””IIRC Fauci did his residency in NYC—and then went into the bureaucracy.”””


Ok, I will grant that Fauci and Girior did see patients during their internship/residency.


31 posted on 08/08/2020 11:06:32 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: SeekAndFind

its already come out why they turned on it

if hcq was declared a treatment for covid, they would not be allowed to fast track other drugs and vaccines for review and approval

they could do it through the normal track, which takes a long time and lots of money

but not skip safety stuff and more dara and longer term review, to fast track any of them

and gates owns major portions of pharma companies working with fast track drugs they couldn’t do that under normal circumstances

fauci has been promoting remdesivir, that has fast track status because hcq has been denigrated personally by him, made by gilead - no less that china started mass producing gilead’s remdesivir, partnering with gilead thrug ccp company wuxi app tec, of which george soros is an owner.


32 posted on 08/08/2020 11:12:48 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

get the quercertin with bromelain, or take bromelain with it

it helps the quercertin being absorbed more/working better


33 posted on 08/08/2020 11:14:00 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The prominent ones they mention are government employees who don’t treat patients. That is two strikes against them.


34 posted on 08/08/2020 11:15:41 AM PDT by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: mo

Wow that math is pure D BS. You’re taking ENTIRE populations of countries as test groups?! That’s just laughable. Congratulations for proving beyond all doubt that indeed: there are lies
there are damned lies
and there are statistics


35 posted on 08/08/2020 11:23:35 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Thilly Thailor; All

We’re still talking about it because the drug might actually work (probably does work) which would tend to allow the re-opening of the American economy before 11/3/20. The Democrats simply can’t allow that to happen.
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Totally true; indeed, hydroxy’s life saving efficacy is exactly why the DemonShits and their media accomplices so hate the hydroxy treatments. They desperately crave to do anything that will stop Trump. The COVID hysteria is the ideal thing because it’s shut down the great Trump rallies. Now, enter hydroxy, and there’s an effective, safe, cheap treatment for the disease that will make it no different than any other treatable disease, like flu, that can, and does, occasionally kill some people, but that’s no modern version of the Black Death. POOF! there goes all the justification for the lockdowns and other petty tyrannies that we’ve been harassed by, we can return to normal, the economy will start booming, and the Trump rallies will resume. IOW a total disaster for the DemonShits that they’ll do anything to prevent, including killing thousands of the most vulnerable Americans.


36 posted on 08/08/2020 11:29:43 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: impactplayer

RE: he recommends zinc and querceitn, which is available in local health food stores. He says the querceitn is just as effective without any of the side effects.

Thanks for the information.

What is the good doctor’s recommended daily dosage for both Quercetin and Zinc for an uninfected person to get protection?


37 posted on 08/08/2020 11:41:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“If we can save one life, then wearing a mask in the supermarket for an hour or so has got to be entirely worth it.”

“If we can save one life, then use of prophylactic hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin + zincm has got to be entirely worth it.”


38 posted on 08/08/2020 11:45:40 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: Secret Agent Man

Thanks for the information. My main desire is to know what the DAILY dosage of Quercetin, Bromelain and Zinc should be ( i.e., how many mg.? ).


39 posted on 08/08/2020 11:45:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: El Cid

Thanks very much for the link to Mrs. Don-o’s post, that was the information that I needed (referring to Dr. Zelenko’s protocol).


40 posted on 08/08/2020 11:50:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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