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President Trump Defends The Confederate Flag's Heritage And Southerners Prideful Love For It
Reuters ^ | July 19, 2020 | Reuters

Posted on 07/19/2020 11:29:39 AM PDT by White Lives Matter

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To: Lurkinanloomin

April 1865.


81 posted on 07/19/2020 7:50:09 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: cowboyusa

And the Founding Fathers rebelled against the UK and so were traitors by your definition. Not only did they rebel against their country but some modern historians even claim their desire to save slavery played a role in their declaring independence from Britain (https://www.counterpunch.org/2011/05/23/was-the-american-revolution-fought-to-save-slavery/). I take it you also see almost half the Scots, who recently voted 45% to leave the UK, as traitors. And the Catalans who want freedom from Spain. And the Ukrainians, Latvians, Armenians, etc. who rebelled against the Soviet Union. And every other group that wanted their own independent nation and to be allowed to choose their own forms of government? Or is it just Southerners who have special standards applied to them?

In my book, people fighting for independence aren’t traitors; people who sell out their side like Benedict Arnold are traitors. Arnold wanted the British to regain total control over the colonies and was paid to help; the South wanted only control over the South and for Northerners to continue on as they pleased. In that regard, this wasn’t even a real civil war like we normally see, where two sides fight for control of the same nation; this was just a failed independence movement that the North crushed with military force.

I only wish you were right about the left today. They’ve been rioting and making a lot of anti-American noise. I haven’t seen anything to indicate they are on the verge of forming their own independent nation with their own laws, currency, borders, values, traditions, etc.—although I think it would be better for everyone if they did and left us to salvage rest of the United States. I’d be more than happy to give them a few (or even several) states to make them all go away and take their leftism with them. Otherwise they may end up with all the power eventually.


82 posted on 07/19/2020 7:58:54 PM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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To: cowboyusa

Chamberlain’s book is still in print, nothing beats first hand accounts

https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Passing-of-Armies-An-Account-Of-The-Final-Campaign-Of-The-Army-Of-The-Poto-/383195865871?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10


83 posted on 07/19/2020 7:59:56 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: cowboyusa

Wrong. The states are sovereign. The union is voluntary and is based on consent.


84 posted on 07/20/2020 5:55:25 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: cowboyusa

For all his faults, FDR’s administration was the first one that put more federal money into the South than extracting money out of the South. The legacy of the war, the Occupation and the ruinous Morrill Tariff had in the words of one administration official, reduced the Southern states to the status of “a colony”. This had been the richest region of the country until the war.


85 posted on 07/20/2020 5:57:44 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Exactly. Give them the Left Coast (though not the inland portions of Washington, Oregon and California), Chicago, Miami and the strip running from Occupied Northern Virginia up through Maine. We can talk about a few other areas like Denver and New Mexico. Let them depart in peace.

We would be so much better off without them. We will of course have to build strong walls to keep any of the Lefties from sneaking back in after their country, Libtardia inevitably collapses.


86 posted on 07/20/2020 6:01:53 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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87 posted on 07/20/2020 8:45:15 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: cowboyusa

Hey Nikki, is that you?


88 posted on 07/20/2020 8:47:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: LeoWindhorse
tagline.

I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...

89 posted on 07/20/2020 8:56:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: cowboyusa
Agreed, once the war was over they really became part of the 2nd American Republic Empire.

Fixed it.

90 posted on 07/20/2020 8:59:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: White Lives Matter

And the President hits the fastball out of the park for a grand slam home run!


91 posted on 07/22/2020 7:24:40 PM PDT by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: Honorary Serb

If’n they get the point... green Zombie edition... in a power point presentation... at say a hundred yards.

Plink plink now they can’t think.


92 posted on 08/17/2020 7:33:32 AM PDT by Jumper
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