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Top US general says Confederate leaders committed 'treason' and signals support for renaming bases
CNN ^ | 7/9/20 | Michael Conte

Posted on 07/09/2020 7:22:08 PM PDT by Meatspace

Washington(CNN) America's top general launched an outspoken attack on the Confederacy and signaled his support for the military renaming bases named for Confederate leaders on Wednesday, in his latest public comments that seem to put him at odds with President Donald Trump.

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley did not hold back in an appearance before the House Armed Service Committee, stating that "those officers turned their back on their oath," referring to the names on the bases. "It was an act of treason, at the time, against the Union, against the Stars and Stripes, against the US Constitution

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1 posted on 07/09/2020 7:22:08 PM PDT by Meatspace
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Wasn’t there a general pardon some years after the Civil War?

There were a few exceptions like Jefferson Davis, etc.


2 posted on 07/09/2020 7:25:05 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Meatspace
The lack of discipline among the higher ranks is disgusting. I guess they think they can all just run their faces about policy that is the providence of the CiC.

Trump needs to put the fear of GOD into some of these insubordinate blobs of swamp.

In today's world, fear of God is ruining careers. Trump needs to ruin multiple military careers.

3 posted on 07/09/2020 7:25:54 PM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Meatspace

Before the Civil War your allegiance was to your State. If you went to West Point, your were there because you were appointed by your State.

That’s why it was called the United StateS, not the United State.


4 posted on 07/09/2020 7:27:12 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: AAABEST

Esper also put daylight between himself and Trump today in using troops against rioters


5 posted on 07/09/2020 7:27:40 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: Meatspace
"It was an act of treason, at the time, against the Union, against the Stars and Stripes, against the US Constitution

So why was not one single person ever charged with treason?
6 posted on 07/09/2020 7:28:09 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deservesrouone. Hamilton)
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To: Meatspace

They were following orders. They called it the War of Aggression. History is written by the victors.


7 posted on 07/09/2020 7:28:58 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: kaehurowing

Yes. And seccession is allowed for by the Constitution. The North wouldn’t allow it.


8 posted on 07/09/2020 7:29:27 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: Meatspace

So if the Mexicans in the California state legislature start chatting about returning the land to it’s previous “owners”, will Milley be up there foaming at the mouth about that?

Or babbling about diversity?


9 posted on 07/09/2020 7:32:11 PM PDT by Regulator
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me thinks he's looking for a good payback IF Biden wins....just planting a little opportunity for himself...

what a strong, high character fellow he is....to go thru his entire military career and JUST NOW decides the names of military bases should be changed...

10 posted on 07/09/2020 7:32:25 PM PDT by cherry
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Confederate monuments destroyed, persons whose ancestors may have owned slaves lives being destroyed, now Southerners are called traitors. There is a tipping point, a line in the sand, and this may well be it.

People need to study the history of that time and know how it all came about. It was a revolt by the South, much like the revolt of 1676. The South was seceding from the Union. There was no treason.


11 posted on 07/09/2020 7:33:20 PM PDT by elpadre
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correction: “revolt of 1776...”


12 posted on 07/09/2020 7:34:38 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: Meatspace

Time for general cyrus to go. ( Miley ref.)


13 posted on 07/09/2020 7:34:48 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: AAABEST

This general should be relieved of his position

He’s wading into politics and contradicting his commander in chief

It’s the kind of treachery the generals in the Roman Empire committed when they set about overthrowing


14 posted on 07/09/2020 7:35:27 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: glorgau
There were a few exceptions like Jefferson Davis, etc.

Davis, after the war, was incarcerated and demanded a trial but was never given one. The US vs Davis was a loser for the US and the AG knew it.

15 posted on 07/09/2020 7:36:09 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: elpadre

Ike outranked this treacherous general

And Ike had a portrait of Robert E Lee in his office.


16 posted on 07/09/2020 7:36:32 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: Meatspace

I support firing this prima donna and shunting him off to a windowless office.


17 posted on 07/09/2020 7:37:03 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: yuleeyahoo
"So why was not one single person ever charged with treason?"

That the Confederacy was accepted as a separate country at the time by the US Congress is proved by the case involving the creation of the state of West Virginia. West Virginia was admitted as a state on June 20th, 1863 after having been a part of the state of Virginia. Had Virginia been seen by the United States Government at that time as a full fledged state of the union, West Virginia could not have been formed as it was specifically forbidden in the Constitution under Article IV, Section 3.

Article IV, Section 3

1: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

That West Virginia was allowed to become a state of it's own is PROOF that the state of Virginia was seen as belonging to the Confederacy at that time. Soldiers fighting in the Confederate army could not be classified as traitors to the United States because at that time, the United States was a separate nation.

18 posted on 07/09/2020 7:37:14 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: AAABEST
The lack of discipline among the higher ranks is disgusting. I guess they think they can all just run their faces about policy that is the providence of the CiC.

The result of hussein's long purge of military leadership

19 posted on 07/09/2020 7:37:53 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Meatspace

The national healing process began with distict acts by Lincoln and Grant calculated to demonstrate respect for and extend fraternal charity toward Lee and his Generals and, by extension, to all Conferderate combatants. These were exceptional acts of gallantry and forgiveness that went a very long way in terms of redirecting the mind of the southern man toward the resumption of national unity. Had the north taken a vindictive approach, who knows what would have happened. A significant part of our dignity and integrity as a nation and as a people inheres in our mature refusal to dig up and re-animate disputes we deliberately buried long ago solely because certain troubled individuals are bent on inventing new ways of feeling about things.


20 posted on 07/09/2020 7:38:16 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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