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Liberals win Oklahoma SCOTUS case
https://mobile.twitter.com/jentaub/status/1281228497088909314 ^ | July 9, 2020

Posted on 07/09/2020 7:12:03 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT

Gorsuch joins 4 LIBS to rule much of Oklahoma belongs to INDIANS.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: creekreservation; indians; neilgorsuch; oklahoma; scotus
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1 posted on 07/09/2020 7:12:03 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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Just was posted at 10:00 am

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-9526_9okb.pdf

Gorsuch writes the majority opinion, joined by 4 LIBS 5-4


2 posted on 07/09/2020 7:14:59 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Does some of it not? There were treaties after all. I don’t see how is this is a win for Liberals. Conservatives believe in the right for people to govern themselves.


3 posted on 07/09/2020 7:15:38 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: SunkenCiv; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; BillyBoy

Ping to OKLAHOMA court case


4 posted on 07/09/2020 7:15:58 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: campaignPete R-CT

What good is making false promises if you can’t break them?

Especially when it’s for “the common good”


5 posted on 07/09/2020 7:18:37 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: bigdaddy45

Good point. I don’t know the details of the case or the legal issues involved.

Probably the headline calls it a liberal win because all four liberals stuck together, and Gorsuch made it a 5-4 decision, while the other conservatives stuck together.


6 posted on 07/09/2020 7:19:13 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Liberals? Really? That word has no meaning anymore.

And what is your take on the U.S. upholding treaties it signed?


7 posted on 07/09/2020 7:20:25 AM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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There are no news articles yet, explaining it. Read it first.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jentaub/status/1281228497088909314


8 posted on 07/09/2020 7:21:58 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Just reading the opinion from Gorsuch, it seems reasonable. It’s more a case of jurisdiction than anything else. I’ll check out the dissenting opinions to see the other side of it.


9 posted on 07/09/2020 7:24:14 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Looks dumb and disruptive to me. Oklahoma is a State, not a reservation. There is hardly a shred of land here that is still indian owned.

More out of hand revisionist history and law.

The USSC have made fools of themselves. Again. They are hardly relevant any longer so far as reputation is concerned.


10 posted on 07/09/2020 7:24:46 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: LaRueLaDue

A liberal take on treaties: the US must by abide by treaty signed over 100 years ago, and a treaty signed by Bill Clinton guaranteeing sovereignty to the Ukraine must be ignored when it requires US military intervention under a Democratic president, or investigating corruption by Democrats.


11 posted on 07/09/2020 7:26:12 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Sequoyah101

To have declared statehood if the sovereign territory of the indian allotments still endures was wrong. If the tribal sovereignty is to exist the state should dissolve in the areas that were indian allotments and that includes much of the state.

What I really want to see happen is for the tribes to make good on the collection of the nickel a ton royalty on all the sand removed from the Arkansas River system. I might see a dime or two from that after they got through stealing most of it.

Gorsuch and his gang just ripped the lid off of Pandora’s Box so far as Oklahoma is concerned. Let’s see where Stitt goes with his gaming commission shake down now.


12 posted on 07/09/2020 7:33:39 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Only ones I can think of are the Kenton reserve and Osage county. Lots of other small areas still “Indian Land” but lots of Indians own large areas of private land or homes in cities.


13 posted on 07/09/2020 7:35:54 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: campaignPete R-CT
Gorsuch joins 4 LIBS to rule much of Oklahoma belongs to INDIANS.

Good grief. What an ignorant statement. Read the case. Did you? If you did, read it again, because that is NOT what the opinion concludes.

14 posted on 07/09/2020 7:37:14 AM PDT by Fury (.)
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https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3863356/posts

Link on Trump tax returns. Both are 7-2 with Thomas Alito in dissent. Sent back to lower courts.

No tax return release yet.


15 posted on 07/09/2020 7:39:34 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: Sequoyah101
There is hardly a shred of land here that is still indian owned.

There is now

16 posted on 07/09/2020 7:40:55 AM PDT by 11th_VA (May you live in interesting times - Ancient Chinese Proverb)
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To: Fury

Good grief. Look at the vote. Nobody on “our side” should be voting with America hating leftists like The Wise Latina (TM), Kagan and Darth Bader Ginsburg. Ever. Period.


17 posted on 07/09/2020 7:40:58 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Fury

How could I? I was the first in the country to report on it.

I beat u by 25 minutes


18 posted on 07/09/2020 7:41:37 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: lodi90
Good grief. Look at the vote. Nobody on “our side” should be voting with America hating leftists like The Wise Latina (TM), Kagan and Darth Bader Ginsburg. Ever. Period.

Please get a grip. And read the case.

19 posted on 07/09/2020 7:41:44 AM PDT by Fury (.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The case in point includes Creek jurisdiction I believe. It is no more or less “indian land” than Kenton or Osage County. I don’t believe the USSC is making any distinction at all as to “ownership” but rather the area designated as an original tribal jurisdiction.

The sovereignty of the tribes has been steadily creeping toward more and more visible blurring the lines between the tribe and local to state government. In the Cherokee Nation it appears more like a partnership with the Cherokees as the player with discretionary funds. They don’t spend much but they make a big show with what they do spend. Contributions are usually in the tens of thousands of dollars. Schools get special trinkets, law enforcement get special tools, the county gets road matching money, the RWD gets help with a new treatment plant etc. The Corps of Engineers gave one of the largest parks in the area to the tribe for management. It will be interesting to see how that turns out. Not well I suspect but I can be surprised. The tribe took over Sequoyah’s home because the state could no longer afford it. There are tribal police but we don’t see them often.

Oklahoma is poor and poorly run. The tribes could do worse I am certain.


20 posted on 07/09/2020 7:45:59 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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