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NY Times: Biden Should Not Debate Trump Unless
nytimes.com ^ | July 7, 2020 | Thomas L. Friedman

Posted on 07/08/2020 4:49:32 AM PDT by Helicondelta

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To: Helicondelta

BS, cooked up in the NYT’s newsroom.


61 posted on 07/08/2020 8:26:00 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Helicondelta

Just having Biden be who he is gives Trump the advantage. Can’t say that it is an un-fair advantage; just that it is what it is.


62 posted on 07/08/2020 8:30:00 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Helicondelta

If Biden’s health is so fragile that he has to hide at home perpetually, how does he propose to function as President?

Friedman can spin that Biden is responsible and setting an example, but we all know that a candidate has to take risks. Hiding in these circumstances is tactical and cowardly.


63 posted on 07/08/2020 8:40:56 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: ZOOKER
Still think Trump should offer to debate Biden’s VP pick. Biden will be gone anyway, why waste the time?

That's brilliant! The President should definitely push that thought as the debates approach.

64 posted on 07/08/2020 10:57:25 AM PDT by Family Guy (A society's first line of defense is not the law but customs, traditions and moral values. -Williams)
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To: PIF
Nero raced in a chariot race at Olympia and fell out of the chariot, but was still proclaimed the winner. A model for how the media will assess Biden's performance (if the debates take place).

If he wins, imagine him giving an inaugural address when his mental state will probably be worse than it is now.

65 posted on 07/08/2020 12:33:12 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Like all such addresses, I’ll pass


66 posted on 07/08/2020 12:35:31 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Helicondelta
Let's first see how Biden fares giving his acceptance speech at the DNC convention.

If he comes off as an unprepared, lost in the glare, befuddled old man who can't keep his place in the script, then all bets are off.

And that's considering a virtual convention without the added distraction of 20,000 screaming delegates packed into an echoing convention center.

-PJ

67 posted on 07/08/2020 12:37:17 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: melsec
He would be slaughtered by Trump in a debate and they all know it.

Not sure how. Biden would be ensured of friendly moderators and be facing someone who couldn't give a concise answer if his life depended on it. Debates are a lose/lose for both sides.

68 posted on 07/08/2020 12:38:04 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
President Trump will needle Biden, interrupt him, and/or rebut his claims. The question will be how long will Biden be able to take it before his condition begins to emerge in front of the viewers?

-PJ

69 posted on 07/08/2020 12:41:06 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Helicondelta

Never bring a knife to a gunfight.


70 posted on 07/08/2020 12:43:11 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Trump IS MY president and I'm damn proud of him!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
President Trump will needle Biden, interrupt him, and/or rebut his claims.

You really think the moderators will allow that? And sooner or later Trump is going to need to answer a question, one requiring a short, concise, coherent response. Calling them a nasty person and refusing to answer won't work.

Debates are not a friendly format for Trump. He would do better to avoid them to the extent possible. His accomplishments more than speak for themselves.

71 posted on 07/08/2020 12:49:40 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: PIF

If Biden does give an inaugural address, it will be on the lines of “our long national nightmare is over.” So he should set a record and have a 6-word-long inaugural address. Of course I am hoping that never happens.


72 posted on 07/08/2020 1:00:20 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: DoodleDawg
I don't think they can stop him.

Tactically, President Trump only has to do it once or twice to throw Biden off his game. After that, a flustered Biden will have to work hard to regain his composure and balance (and perhaps, his focus).

The moderators can try to heavy-hand him in the first debate, but that will become the news. "Moderators stopping Trump but letting Biden slide" will dwarf whatever actually happens, and the people will tune into the first debate.

I agree that Trump will need to be able to answer questions pointedly, but he will also need to be prepared for loaded "gotcha" questions that are designed by the MSM to be answered only one way that is harmful to Trump. Trump will have to use his time to rephrase the question that shows its inherent dishonesty in how it was asked before he can effectively answer it, and thus risks the charge of rambling.

-PJ

73 posted on 07/08/2020 1:01:34 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: DoodleDawg

He seems incapable of holding a thought for long. He is still good at delivering pre written lines. They won’t let him debate and there lies your proof.


74 posted on 07/09/2020 2:17:57 AM PDT by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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To: alexander_busek; All

Yes, I’ve been scrolling this thread hoping to read what the conditions were, but see nothing. You’ve confirmed...there are none.


75 posted on 07/09/2020 9:56:05 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: albie

Dukakis recently told Biden to ignore the polls, because he himself was far ahead in July of 1988, then got badly beaten by Bush Sr. in November.

Hillary was ahead by 14 points in a national poll taken two weeks before the 2016 election.

Carter was far ahead of Reagan in the spring of 1980.

Truman trailed Dewey badly in 1948.

And so on and so on...


76 posted on 07/09/2020 10:11:29 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: Helicondelta
NY Times: Biden Should Not Debate Trump Unless Trump Decides NOT to Run!
77 posted on 07/09/2020 10:13:50 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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