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Just 50% of Americans plan to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Here’s how to win over the rest
Science ^ | June 30, 2020 | Warren Cornwall

Posted on 07/05/2020 1:24:16 PM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: DoodleBob

The Democrat Plan

61 posted on 07/05/2020 2:31:46 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: DoodleBob

Try proving they work. There is no such thing as a corona virus vaccination and there won’t be in our lifetime. The common cold takes one form as a cornavirus, no vaccine for it yet either.

All this talk about a vaccination is just more BS communist control. They constantly make claims like “We can’t open until there is a vaccine.” “When there’s a vaccine we can...”

They’re just gaslighting the feeble minded sheeple into doing anything the communist dictators demand by claiming once a vaccine is in place they’ll stop.

BS.


62 posted on 07/05/2020 2:32:00 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: DoodleBob

Not. At. Gunpoint.


63 posted on 07/05/2020 2:33:45 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Yaelle
I don't think so...I'm seeing a LOT of liability on both sides. For example, if you force employees to get a defective vaccine then you will likely get sued...yeah sure the vaccine maker will get sued but after they're declared insolvent the trial bar will look for deep pockets. There is also the risk of managerial or Board personal liability - will individual plant supervisors get personally sued in civil court if someone dies from the vaxx?

I think there is also a lot of fear and concern about the line between a company's meddling in your personal business. Beyond drug tests and maybe a background check, few of us have ever had to produce anything else, let alone immunization records. Employees are already peeved if their employer monitors their personal social media posts...there will be a yuge amount of pushback on company-mandated immunizations.

Masks are one thing...you can take the darn things off at home (or the second you leave the Piggly Wiggly). Forced injection of an unproven serum into your body is not a line corporations want to even consider. As for politicians, I doubt Republicans are in favor...and Dems...well...I don't think they want to try to convince blacks that Tuskegee can't happen again - those protests will make George Floyd look like a lightning bug and they can't count on the white liberal kids to stand with them because these college-educated Caucasians will WANT forced vaccinations.

64 posted on 07/05/2020 2:33:54 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The problem is: If I already have had Covid 19 and have some kind of immunity, I probably don’t need a vaccine, certainly this year. As for Covid 20 or Covid 21 they change the formulation. Getting loaded up with vaccinations is probably not a good idea without a reason. So far I am not convinced this is worse than a medium flu season...with the conflation of died of and died with. I am sure that is why people with a college education have a tough time getting good jobs. “Grass eaters” is the term I like.

DK


65 posted on 07/05/2020 2:35:42 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

You can not compare Smallpox with the the Flu.


66 posted on 07/05/2020 2:38:17 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: erkelly

You are a classic example of the problem faced by public health in trying to distribute a COVID-19 vaccine to the general population. Similar comments are all over this discussion board and elsewhere on social media.

As I have previously said, feel free if you don’t want to take it. Thus, there is no suppression of free speech by me.

My point is public health really dropped the ball and allowed folks, probably like you, to take advantage of providing an anti vaccine message and, as a result, it is going to create an issue when trying to resolve COVID-19.


67 posted on 07/05/2020 2:41:48 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
The details are found here. Again, it's not perfect (e.g., I'd have preferred they drew a higher black sample) but Pew does a much better job that most other outfits.
68 posted on 07/05/2020 2:42:21 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Kaslin

Happy birthday, Kaslin, in case I forget!


69 posted on 07/05/2020 2:43:10 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: Truthoverpower

Utter nonsense.

1) The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program does compensate anyone who is injured by a vaccine. In fact, they compensate everyone who can even make a reasonable CLAIM that they’ve been harmed. You don’t have to prove anything. And yet, they pay out one claim per million vaccines given. So your chances of having any injury are somewhat less than one in a million.

2) The industry is immune from lawsuits because in the 1980s, anti-vaxxers nearly ran all vaccine makers out of business with lawsuits about fantasy injuries proven to be completely without merit. So rather than losing all vaccines in the US, Congress stepped in between the two parties. The industry is still heavily regulated.

4) Hugh Blair of Borgue was a well documented case of a person with all the classic symptoms of autism. Symptoms were highly detailed in a 1747 court case. Plenty of people had autism throughout history, even before we had an actual diagnosis. Now that there’s more awareness of it, it gets diagnosed more regularly (possibly overdiagnosed now). If you’re suggesting a link between autism and vaccines, that’s been laughed out of court rooms for decades. It used to get pinned on the MMR vaccines, except now we can diagnose autism before the usual age the MMR vaccine is given. So now that bar gets moved elsewhere.

5) They’re usually just mandated if you want your kids going to school with other kids. Because nobody wants kids with deadly, preventable diseases roaming around their kids.

6) Yes, because of persistent measles outbreaks due to breaks in herd immunity thanks to anti-science anti-vaxxers.

Yes, I have heard something about measles lately. From January 1 to December 31, 2019, 1,282 individual cases of measles were confirmed in 31 states. Of these cases, 128 were hospitalized and 61 reported having complications, including pneumonia and encephalitis.

Measles has the added bonus that it kills Memory B-cells, which effectively erases the immune system of otherwise healthy people. That leaves them susceptible to all the infections they’ve already gone through and renders any immunity they might have had before useless.


70 posted on 07/05/2020 2:44:47 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: DoodleBob

Never be the first to drive on a new bridge. Never be the first to get a new vaccine. I’m a hard pass for a while. (Gen X and proud!)


71 posted on 07/05/2020 2:44:52 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: DoodleBob

No way.


72 posted on 07/05/2020 2:45:05 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: Kaslin

The statement was made that viruses weaken and disappear on their own. Smallpox is a virus. It did not weaken on its own. It did not disappear on its own. It killed hundreds of millions of people around the world for thousands of years. The point stands.


73 posted on 07/05/2020 2:45:57 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: DoodleBob

Nope, you are not going to”win me over”.


74 posted on 07/05/2020 2:46:15 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Maudeen

I,too, loved the part about Paul.


75 posted on 07/05/2020 2:48:13 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: Kaslin
I got a flu shot last year for the first time and that was only because I started a new job at a hospital and was required to.

I only wear a mask at work because I'm required to. Otherwise, I keep one in my pocket in case I go somewhere with a mask bouncer.

If they require me to get vaccinated to work here I will find a new job.

But, knowing Commiefornia, that might become a requirement everywhere. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

I'm 59 so I'm on the cusp of the danger zone. I've had a good life and know where I'm going when I'm done here so I don't worry about that.

Yes, I'm concerned about Mrs. Eagle's health so I take it all into consideration.

76 posted on 07/05/2020 2:48:46 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: dhs12345

I don’t follow. What is surprising?


77 posted on 07/05/2020 2:50:47 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Smallpox is not a corona virus.

It’s a different virus.

Show us an effective corona virus family vaccine and you might have a case.

I’ll wait.


78 posted on 07/05/2020 2:53:01 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: hawkaw
Jesus has the power to set you free from the fear of death which is keeping you in bondage. He can set you free from death itself!
79 posted on 07/05/2020 2:53:52 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: DoodleBob

Boomers remember what polio and smallpox were like before the vaccines for them. They’re (mostly) quite thankful for vaccines and all they’ve done to keep them and their kids and grandkids safe. I will never understand the backlash against the modern medical marvels that save millions of lives every year.


80 posted on 07/05/2020 2:54:03 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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