Posted on 07/05/2020 1:24:16 PM PDT by DoodleBob
Has there EVER been a safe and effective vaccine developed for ANY strain of coronavirus?
Unless I’m shown an example of one, I’ll take the “vaccine” only at gunpoint, in handcuffs and leg restraints.
Here’s how to win over rest:
1. Show that it actually works.
2. Pay us $10,000.00 each to take it.
Problem solved.
Nobody is perfect, but Pew’s breakdowns and sample design in this case follow a sound methodology.
One word says Blacks won’t comply.
“Tuskegee”.
Shouldn’t we get the Spanish Flu, the Asian Flu and the Hong Kong Flu vaccines first???
There isn’t going to be any vaccine, this virus is doing what all viruses do... It’s weakening and eventually it will peter out and disappear. Problem solved... Except of course for the millions who will be unemployed and unemployable because of closures of businesses that will never reopen.
The question isn’t whether its a good idea to get a vaccine known to work well and have extremely rare side effects. The poll is picking up exactly the suspicion that the opposite might be the case. “You go first.”
“Just 50% of Americans plan to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Here’s how to win over the rest”
you really can’t blame them.
none of the current quickie covid vaccines are really vaccines at all: what they really are is a giant gene therapy experiment to be conducted simultaneously on billions of people.
what will be injected is not really a vaccine at all in the conventional sense, but instead is a live, laboratory-made synthetic virus/plasmid that they HOPE will produce a COVID antibody protein in response to DNA of covid antigens spliced into the synthetic virus/plasmid after the synthetic virus/plasmid enters your cells and hijacks their machinery, and then they hope that subsequent antibody protein will provide covid immunity ...
heretofore, such recombinant DNA/RNA techniques splices the DNA squences of the target antigens into a synthetic virus/plasmid (circular DNA) combination but mixes the synthetic virus/plasmid into a bioreactor containing immortal cell lines (usually perpetually-dividing cancer cells) where the synthetic virus/plasmid invades the cells, multipies and produces the target antigens encoded in the synthetic virus/plasmid. Then the antigen protein that was produced is extracted and purified, and which in turn is the only active ingredient in the vaccine when it’s injected into people being vaccinated. Subsequently, the body produces protective antibodies to fight the injected antigen. The Flublok influenza vaccine is manufactured this way, for example. (https://sanofiflu.com/pdf/Flublok-Quadrivalent-Flashcard.pdf)
however, the “new” gene therapy technology injects the synthetic virus/plasmid directly into people being “vaccinated”, skipping the bioreactor, antigen reproduction, extraction, and purification steps, and instead uses the human body directly as the “bioreactor”. this is a technique heretofore never tried before, yet the plans are to try this on billions of people all at once. This gene therapy “vaccine” technology is not even really a new technology at all because it’s been around for a while, but big pharma knew that they could never get away with such gene therapy experimentation on billions of people UNTIL covid came along and the FDA could eliminate the bulk of their previous vaccine safety requirements because covid emergency ...
i for one do NOT wish to participate in this experiment ...
The vaccine debate is just like the evolution debate and the global warming debate. True science provides evidence on both sides.
But also on all sides is junk science. Studies with confirmation bias that set out to prove the thesis. The data I work with was the subject of one such flu vaccine study by a big Health IT company. The study made several major logic and math errors that made the results meaningless. They proved neither that flue vaccines are safe and effective, nor otherwise.
Until the honest, competent scientists step up and correct the studies on their own side that are garbage, the problem will continue.
Of course, this could be compared to non-science studies/investigations. When it became obvious that there was no Russian Collusion, one liberal got on Medium, a leftist dominated site and urged her fellow leftists to recognize reality and not make Trump a sympathetic figure. But ALMOST all other leftists who knew it was false, would not stand up for the facts and truth.
The same thing happens on the right. A troll makes some claim that Trump supporters find convenient to believe.
Many on both sides seem to think that standing up for a liar will somehow benefit their side.
As I stated on another thread, public health has done a major disservice by letting anti vaccine folks slam the Covid-19 vaccine.
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Yes, that pesky 1st Amendment thingy gets in the way, doesn’t it.
I know if I ask Nancy about any vaccine, she’ll tell me I have to get get the vaccine to find out what is in it.
No Thanks.
Persuasion. No coercion, no deception. Informed consent. I know that approach disturbs some people’s inner Nazi, but it’s very effective for getting enthusiastic support.
You must be one of those Fearbros I’ve heard about.
From the Flubros threads.
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Sorry, I don’t follow.
Smallpox didn’t weaken or disappear on its own. It killed hundreds of millions of people over thousands of years. It didn’t stop killing people until a vaccine was developed and widely deployed. Then, after thousands of years, it was gone in just a few years.
NO WAY will I take this damn vaccine not no bet HELL NO!!!
No one has been mentioned the obvious. Do you want near 100% cooperation for getting a Covid vaccination? Your boss will require it. Watch and see if businesses and corporations don’t make mandatory vaccines a requirement for all employees.
If it’s just a flu, then there will be a flu vaccination for it, right,
“ It’s just the flu, bro.”
That’s right. All vaccines are for pussies, right?
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