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Chinese military reveals rifle-sized railgun prototypes
https://www.msn.com/ ^ | 6/28/2020 | Provided by Daily Times(PK)

Posted on 06/28/2020 10:29:06 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

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To: Pontiac

Still, it would have to be something embarrassingly cumbersome.


21 posted on 06/29/2020 12:59:28 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: Spktyr

Nah.

From the article:

“It is obvious that these weapons are still in the prototype stage, as their range and impact are not optimum, very likely due to the guns’ limited battery or capacitor capacity to store and release energy, the expert said. But once this technical problem is solved, the coilguns will become much more powerful and could replace the firearms of today.”

Cartridge rifles and pistols have over a century of fairly intense development behind their current designs. Well understood ballistic performance, proven in combat, easy to manufacture (weapon and ammunition), etc., etc., blah, blah, blah.

To be a possible game changer, the proposed new system has to provide the possibility of a “militarily significant improvement” in performance. Once you check that box, you then get to explore the schedule and funding issues involved in manufacturing and fielding enough of the new system to translate that militarily significant improvement into battlefield success.

The weapon probably incorporates complex electronics and those will have to be hardened against the abuse that is a part of field service with the infantry. As for the energy required to operate the weapon, it probably will be divided in two: on-board batteries to operate the fire control/optical systems and separate batteries integrated into the ammunition system to provide the pulsed high energy needed to launch the projectiles. Inserting a clip would provide both new projectiles and the energy needed to launch them. Still have to figure out how to store that much energy without loss over long periods of time (that’s the storage characteristic of the chemical energy system that is being replaced). If not, developers are going to have to come up with a recharging system the infantry can actually use in “every clime and place.”


22 posted on 06/29/2020 1:01:13 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: jmcenanly
As someone else said; this is a prototype. More of a propaganda piece than a fieldable weapon.

You don’t really expect it to be practical.

If it was a practical weapon they wouldn’t have had the press conference.

23 posted on 06/29/2020 1:10:29 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Viking2002
The Girardoni air rifle was an airgun designed by Italian inventor Bartolomeo Girardoni circa 1779. The weapon was also known as the Windbüchse ("wind rifle" in German). One of the rifle's more famous associations is its use on the Lewis and Clark Expedition to explore and map the western part of North America in the early 1800s

It was not your childhood air rifle.

24 posted on 06/29/2020 1:28:38 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Viking2002

SO YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SHOT OUT MY WINDSHIELD !!!


25 posted on 06/29/2020 2:20:03 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: Viking2002

SO YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SHOT OUT MY WINDSHIELD !!!


26 posted on 06/29/2020 2:20:04 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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Twice;)


27 posted on 06/29/2020 2:20:54 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

To be fair, most of the problems reported at the dam before the current flood conditions were due to crap Chinese contractor misbehavior and construction. Their military suppliers are considerably different, not least of which because if they screw up QC, someone gets shot.

Put it to you this way - right now, Holosun’s Chinese red dot sights are put together better than Leupold’s assembled in USA ones at a higher price. See the recent InRange videos on YouTube for proof.


28 posted on 06/29/2020 2:43:01 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Pontiac

Supercapacitor bank, using some of the stuff being played with in the electric vehicle industry.


29 posted on 06/29/2020 2:45:16 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: jmcenanly

Not necessarily. It’s at least reasonably possible that they could get ten projectiles and enough power in supercapacitors into a magazine the size of a Magpul 30 rounder. I’d be interested to see if that’s what they did.


30 posted on 06/29/2020 3:12:57 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Captain Rhino

My guess is that it’s got limited ammo capacity and bleeding edge supercapacitor power in something the size of a conventional 30 round magazine. But that’s just a guess; if they do, it could be useful for their police market as is and point the way to further developments down the road.


31 posted on 06/29/2020 3:15:59 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Let me guess - coatings that use rare earth elements...


32 posted on 06/29/2020 3:40:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Blackface Equivalent? When black women wear wigs to make it look like they have 'white's hair'...)
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To: GOPJ

No, actually. They’re nanocoatings which are generally thought to not require REEs.


33 posted on 06/29/2020 3:49:01 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

It’s a perfect weapon for a field robot - offsets the battery weight issue.


34 posted on 06/29/2020 4:04:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (Blackface Equivalent? When black women wear wigs to make it look like they have 'white's hair'...)
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To: Spktyr
They’re nanocoatings which are generally thought to not require REEs.

I have to be careful not to always assume the worst. Thanks for clearing that up.

35 posted on 06/29/2020 4:18:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Blackface Equivalent? When black women wear wigs to make it look like they have 'white's hair'...)
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To: Spktyr

No they haven’t solved the battery or capacitor issue. Any high school kid can build what they are showing off, in fact there are numerous youtube videos of people clowning around with homemade coilguns.

This is in the same venue as “Iranian Stealth fighter” unveiling. They are trying to show that “see the Americans aren’t the only ones with railguns, we even have railgun pistols!”


36 posted on 06/29/2020 4:25:38 AM PDT by Vikon99 (-Yeah, I design video games and VR and AR and Training.)
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To: Viking2002

“Squirrels and crows were another matter.”

Crows always knew I was carrying!


37 posted on 06/29/2020 4:43:24 AM PDT by Does so (Neo-Venezuelans = Democrats = Rioters = Looters)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
-- power density of a battery is so much less than gun powder --

Maybe do a combination of electricity and "that battery blowed up real good" to push the projectile.

38 posted on 06/29/2020 4:52:40 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Spktyr
Lots of these...


39 posted on 06/29/2020 4:58:52 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Vikon99

The capacitors are the bullets


40 posted on 06/29/2020 5:36:11 AM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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