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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 28 June 2020
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 28 June 2020 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 06/28/2020 4:23:49 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions on the shows.
1 posted on 06/28/2020 4:23:49 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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This is the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread Ping List! If you want to be on it, reply to this post or FReepmail me (in case I miss it). If you want to be taken off, simply send e a FReepmail.
2 posted on 06/28/2020 4:24:22 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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C-SPAN Radio, available on the net also, click here, broadcasts all five Sunday talk shows starting at 12:00 noon Eastern, as follows:

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"

3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "State of the Union"

4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"

Listen at the link above WHILE you FReep! Also, Sharyl Attkinson’s Full Measure: Watch live at 9:30 EST.

3 posted on 06/28/2020 4:24:48 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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Here are the email addresses or web pages--and now Twitter pages--for commenting to the weekend talk shows:

Email: Meet the Press Meet the Press mailbox (web page for comments) Twitter: @MeetThePress @ChuckTodd

Email: Face the Nation Twitter: @FaceTheNation

Email: Fox News Sunday Twitter: @foxnewssunday

Email: ABC This Week Twitter: @ThisWeekABC @GStephanopoulos

Email: CNN State of the Union CNN State of the Union (web page for comments) Twitter: @CNNSotu @JakeTapper

Email: Sunday Morning Futures Twitter: @MariaBartiromo

4 posted on 06/28/2020 4:25:14 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: bray; All

“The Sunday Morning Bray”, by Bray!

For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 16:25 (King James Version)

Once again, we have to go through the basics to bring people like Tucker Carlson off the ledge. People ax all the time how you have predicted the last ten presidential elections in a row or picked 44 of 50 states last time and it is always the same answer. I go against the Echo Chamber including Fox Bush News and analyze the things which truly matter. I picked Trump when he came down the escalator and said Romney had no chance since he was just Democrat light. I knew Trump was going to win when he had the backbone to talk about immigration and the border. They are going to hate you anyway so you may as well give them a reason.

Listening to the Echo Chamber is like expecting Ford to give an objective report on Chevy, only Ford will be more truthful. They are all spokesmen for the Three Pillars of Communism (Academia, Media, and Democrats) who hate the Republican Party and Christians with every fiber of their beings. But bray, look at Trump crashing in the polls!

When I was in graduate level statistics which is something none of the mediots ever took, there was a saying, garbage in, garbage out. When you have caller ID on every phone in America how are you possibly going to get a truly random sample? When these polls say plus or minus 2%, they are exaggerating since as we saw in the last real primary they were off a much as 16% when it came to Trump. The polls are just a tool to prop up their narrative.

The other saying, we had in college is if you fail Business School go into education, if you fail teaching go into journalism. This is the brain trust of the Echo Chamber, a bunch of low intelligence DNC hacks who are telling Trump how to run his campaign and trying to beat the drum once again that he is losing according to their phony polls. The good news is we can watch Glass Ceiling 2.0 on air once again as they realize their polls were as bad as the China flu predictions or the Global Warming studies. Is Miami underwater yet?

Atheists like the ones in our media do not believe there is a God and rely on the absolutely disproven Evolutionary fraud. It has been absolutely disproven as they cannot explain how life could have randomly happened due to the complexity of the DNA molecule. That single molecule makes it as likely as a hurricane going through a small boat building factory and the next day an aircraft carrier is sitting in the water fully functional, as life occurring randomly. The only difference is the DNA molecule is more complex than the carrier.

The geniuses of the boob tube use science as their final authority. You cannot argue science. They ignore the fact that most of their science has been corrupted by politics and especially poll science, but they always have some bald guy in a lab coat explaining what all these poll numbers mean and how horrible it is for the Repub from Reagan to Trump. The real miracle is Repubs still fall for it especially when you put all the polls together, which is how good the scam works.

Now you have a horrible sample of only the people who will answer an unknown phone number and you start the conversation you want to ask questions for a poll, click. If you do find the one in a hundred bored enough to answer your questions who will likely not vote and barely knows who Braindead Biden is and you ax him, “Who are you voting for in November, Joe Biden who Obama endorsed or the racist? What do you think the results are going to be?

The polls are useless and predict nothing. The closest to an actual result is Rasmussen since he uses the same people every day and does not have to rely on finding the dumbest person in the county. Name one person who answers unknown numbers since they are usually sales calls. Finally, you poll the entire country when you are having an Electoral College which has zero connection.

Trump is not in trouble and actually the only question to axe is what state did he win last time which will switch this time. There is really none since FL will stay in his column, you have to look at PA, MI and WI as the only potential and they are all more solidly in his camp due to fracking, coal and the auto industry.

What will Slow Joe do except shut down all those jobs which is why they are playing the tired old race card and even there the only ones falling for it are young women who if they do vote always vote for more communism anyway. Anyone who wants a job or wants her husband to have a job are going to vote Trump. Talk to the Independents and that is what you will hear.

The other factor which only Trump has is he is a marketing genius and perhaps the most genius marketer in the country. Let him do his magic and do not doubt his instincts. Campaign managers are trained to run campaigns one way which is to take no chances and use the formula, 10 million phone calls, 1 million doors and 25 appearances. The motto of a manager is win or lose as long as my check clears the day after.

Their formula which is repeated daily by the Three Pillars works well for Dems where they have unlimited workers, money and media slaves, but horrific for Repubs who do not have any of those so you have to go outside of the box which is what Trump does. Love me or hate me just get the name right and he does that better than anyone.

If you use the go against the Echo Chamber method, then Trump will hold the same states he held last time and will pick up a couple of others which could be NV, NM, CO and the long shot being Oregon or Washington.
President Trump needs to ignore the doomsday talking faces and stick to his gut. He needs to double down on rallies and treat the virus like any other bad flu to get the country back to work. Once everyone gets it then it is over, and the Chinese can have some payback. Ignore the polls and realize Slow Joe has No Go and November will show.

They can worship science and fake polls while we worship the one true God. Keep praying for this country as the spiritual war is being revealed every day. This war cannot be won with guns and polls but only with the Grace of God. Stay in prayer and stay with the Lord Jesus Christ, he is revealing himself and the enemy for all the world to see.

Pray for BLMer’s Salvation

Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Bray’s. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.

5 posted on 06/28/2020 4:25:58 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
• Morning AB, All. As always, thank you AB for doing this thread so reliably and keeping the peace with gentle thread policing. Thank you Bray for weekly written wisdom, Thank all yon contributors for excellent commentary to flesh it all out.

• Below are the words from my daily political diary. It is quite long so scroll on by if not interested. But do stay around and add your commentary and point of view to the thread.

• Yes I am compiling a Blog about the great pandemic of 2020 and how my country stupidly shut down the economy.  We will have opinions, political and cultural highlights, my personal experience, social media details, even TV reviews since I watch so much TV while in my home jail.  We shall, as always, end with a smile.



(another update)

John Bolton Releases His Wonderful and Loyal Book

"The Room Where It Happened" is the title, yon descendants, of the book by President Trump's former National Security Advisor.

See the source imageFirst off yon descendants I admit now that once upon a time I greatly admired John Bolton.  Please note the great picture included as this man makes everyone smile.  Bolton was a guest pundit on Fox cable news frequently before Trump appointed him National Security Advisor.

This week, and no doubt yon descendants will be able to pull it off some library shelf and read it, the book was released to all kinds of hoopla.

Bolton had been asked to testify before the House impeachment meeting but he refused, I must suppose so that he would not be found guilty of lying before congress.  Which is a hint, I'd argue yon descendants, that he's probably lying a lot in the book.

When he was a pundit on Fox he was very interesting and I even, yon descendants, considered him to be quite handsome.

As of this writing Bolton is being interviewed by a lot of folks, including, insert smile here, a few Fox news hosts.

What I did not know about Bolton when I had my she-crush on the guy was that he loved and adores military battles of any kind and he likes to lie a lot.

For he should have some loyalty to President Trump, as we all should have some loyalty to those who trusted us enough to gives us gainful employment.

Bolton says he is going to vote for Joe Biden this upcoming election in November 2020.  This right now shows how very stupid John Bolton is.



(one more update)

The Great Wall Built and Reaches 200 miles!

Dear descendants, if by the time you read this you are not living in an America that no longer speaks English and/or are now living in a country living under another flag but the stars and stripes, you could maybe thank President Trump for taking a lot of guff from the opposition party.  Said political party, as of this writing known as Democrats, argues that America should be the welcoming country for those who suffer and are mistreated in their birth countries.

Which is true, of course, yon descendants, but there are methods and ways to ask for entry into America and it isn't that you just walk right in with no prior permission.

We call people who do this "illegal immigrants".  As of this writing, yon descendants ,there are a million, billion, trillion people on planet earth.  America cannot possibly take them all in.  Further, we want only the best of the best, given a choice, but we open our arms and welcome those who are mistreated or terrified of the government of the country of their birth.

Also, illegal immigrants do not learn the language as well as those who go fairly through our system.  They tend to take low-paying jobs that Americans would work but for a fairer wage.

In other words, yon descendants, President Trump began building a wall between Mexico and the U.S.A. to keep those out who sneak through the woods or across the waters to enter without permission.

This week the wall, condemned by those who don't much love this country, is now 200 miles long as of this writing, yon descendants, and it was a big celebration as President Trump came to view that which DOES prevent illegal trespassing, no matter what the Democrats say.

Here's hoping that by the time you read this yon descendants that a sturdy wall runs the width between America and the countries to our south.  Here's hoping yon descendants live in a country where those who follow the rules are welcomed with love and happiness.


The Story of Bubba Wallace

Most likely, yon descendants, you and yours will probably never know, or even hear of, Bubba Wallace.

Bubba Wallace is a NASCAR driver, NASCAR being racing cars in case they don't even have such a thing in your era because of COVID-382.

When I was a kid we often went to what we called "stock car races", which were races involving ordinary drivers driving ordinary cars.  NASCAR is more like professional drivers driving fancy souped up cars designed for racing.

Below, from Wikipedia.

Darrell "Bubba" Wallace Jr.[1] (born October 8, 1993) is an American professional stock car racing driver. He competes full-time in the NASCAR Cup Series, driving the No. 43 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE for Richard Petty Motorsports. Previously, Wallace was signed as a development driver for Joe Gibbs Racing where Wallace competed in the Camping World Truck Series, driving the No. 54 Toyota Tundra for Kyle Busch Motorsports. He also raced in the Xfinity Series, driving the No. 6 Ford Mustang of Roush Fenway Racing, from 2015 to mid 2017.[2] Wallace is noted for being one of the most successful African American drivers in the history of NASCAR.[3]

This past week Bubba Wallace said he found a noose (that's right.....a NOOSE) in the garage stall where he keeps his racing car.  Yon descendants, please look up Jussie Smollet  in Google.  He too was attacked by strangers who wrapped a noose around his neck.

There have been several other allegations of "nooses" being left in the surround of African Americans.

The significance of these nooses, yon descendants, is that back during the time of slavery, runaway slaves were often hung from tree limbs for daring to run for freedom.  The noose icon put in the presence of African Americans is considered not only an insult, but also a sort of threat.

Well it would turn out, yon descendants, that this "noose" Wallace found hanging from his garage door was no such thing but was, rather, a "handle" to use to open the garage door.

I don't suppose it would be such a big deal, perhaps confusion, a mistake.  But the whole episode required an FBI investigation and a grand parade given by other drivers on the NASCAR speedway.  Also, a whole bunch of apologies.

Only the FBI declared that rope hanging from the garage door was not a noose, it had been there since October of last year (2019) and no evil intent should be deduced.

But did Wallace accept his error?

Yon descendants, anytime an African American professes to find a noose in his or her presence, take it with a HUGE grain of salt.



(that my descendants may know how I handled it)

And so, yon descendants, I got a hold of my hairdresser, a profession that, caused by this pandemic, has become essential, beloved, near and dear to all our hearts.  My niece is a hairdresser and so is my sister so I am somewhat familiar with the profession.

The gubmint has closed all the hairdressers lest we pass viruses of various sorts and now it's been four months with no hairdressers allowed to cut hair in the beauty salons of yore.

I look exactly like Matlock.

In fact, all of America is freaking out over haircuts that can't be gotten and we all look like shaggy dogs or, like I said, Matlock.

My hairdresser has her salon in a retirement home and older people are especially susceptible to Covid-19.  When I spoke to her, her salon was not yet allowed to re-open but God bless, she offered to come to my house and cut my hair.

My niece, who also has a shop in a nursing home, has been going to peoples' homes to do their hair.  MY hairdresser, upon me turning her down to come to my house due to dog, cats and concern over how to place things, offered to allow me to come to HER house for a haircut.

As of this writing I am going to wait until her salon opens up, at which point I might look like Einstein.  But trust yon descendants, as of this writing the entire country looks like a bunch of railroad tramps.  My advice to descendants, GET A JOB AS A HAIRDRESSER!

You will always be loved.



(social media explains so much)

Image may contain: text that says 'Welcome to communist America: We can't speak our mind. We differently than those with the mob mentality. We to our homes. We are not allowed to freely show. patriotism. no longer to enjoy travel, sporting events, concerts or celebrations. We are told when to be home. We are forced to subscribe to fear over a health crisis. We are controlled by the media. We allowed to worship. We are forced to erase history. We are forced to apologize. We forced to kneel. It all only took 4 months.'



(since I watch so much TV, not for my descendants)

Penn and Teller Fool Us

Aspiring magicians from all over the world perform their best tricks to try and fool Penn and Teller, the world-famous magician duo. If the two can not guess how the trick was done, the "fooler" gets to be on their Las Vegas magic show.

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This show airs on CWTV, in my area on Monday nights.

First, I've always liked Penn and Teller, as an actor.  Alyson Hannigan is the on-stage hostess, above in red, and she does a wonderful job.

The idea of this act is to have other magic acts perform in front of them, properly introduced by Hannigan, of course, and see if the other magicians can fool Penn and Teller.  Teller never talks and it's part of their schtick.

At any rate, about four acts perform per show and Penn and Teller figure out the secret behind the disappearing cards or reappearing rabbit or whatever magic is then upon.

I am surprised that Penn and Teller are ever fooled at all, but they are.

The most recent show I watched had magicians return, magicians who fooled Penn and Teller not once before, but TWICE before.  Penn and Teller are very gracious hosts and they have a secret "magic speak" that they use to tell the magician then being judged how they figured out the trick.

I do not understand magic at all and every magician that ever pulled a rabbit out of a hat will tell you that it's ingrained magician rules that how the tricks are done should never revealed.

And Alyson does a great job as hostess, often being part of a performing magician's act, passing time as Penn and Teller whisper in their chairs their guesses as to how the trick was done, and, of course, in introducing the two starts and all competing magicians.

It's a good show, entertaining, and hey, if you are a magician and can fool the best of the best, which would be Penn and Teller.....then hey, you're good.



(My opinion for my descendants)

A War is Being Fought

The United States of America is being invaded, my yon descendants, in this era of the COVID-19 pandemic, now June of 2020 but beginning in the early months of that year.

Once upon a time, yon descendants, countries were invaded and conquered using weapons of war to include guns, tanks, airplanes and bombs.

In this day and age, takeover of the country's media, infiltration of its universities and government positions, election of fraudulent candidates and yes, viruses, are ways to conquer a country.  It's cheap, results in relatively little bloodshed, and often those being conquered are not aware.

First, you get the once established and respected media to lie about everything.  The people in a country have grown used to the big media outlets, even if dictated by the government like Russia does.  The citizens think truth rings out across the airways as it had once been.  Establish some rule that journalists should always seek the truth but have them shout lies and the people....well first they believe but you can only fool people for so long.

Establish some mistreated class of people, be it illegal immigrants, perhaps Jews in WWII Germany, and of course, former slaves in America.  Contact that mistreated minority and make them mad, have the media repeat the story of found nooses, have the mistreated minority make every blink of an eyeball an insult to them, scare the hell out of the citizens that they are frightened to breathe that they will be called a hate-monger.

Given time, begin tearing down the icons of that country's history, statues, names of buildings, that sort of thing.  By that time the citizenry of the country being conquered will shake in fear and will not complain about riots, fires and statues being destroyed.

Finally begin to take over blocks of property in some major, and co-operating area.  By this time the citizenry should be so confused they allow this invasion and with the help of a major political party from within the country being conquered, boom, no guns, little bloodshed, take away all prior names and boom, you have conquered a country with no need of concentration camps, nuclear bombs and other nasty stuff.

Oh, and be sure to go after that country's police departments.

Yon descendants, if by the time you read this if you are not living in the United States of CHOP, let us hope that the current America is still around.

But you know what, yon descendants?  If they win....if they send nasty viruses to us, if they sneak their citizens in to become part of the spy bureaucracy or pretend to be students....then yon descendants, America got just what it deserved.

I call it survival of the fittest.  It's a tall order to infiltrate the media, to spread the right lies.  It's not easy to turn an entire group of people within the citizenry to evil-doers who hate this country.  It's not easy to keep an eagle eye out for news making events and turn them into major local errors that deserves to be overthrown.

They might win, yon descendants.  But bear in mind that the U.S. A. was once a free country to all elements of the citizenry.  Police used to come when called.  Businesses were not burned down because of an incident that happened thousands of miles away.

But if it is nothing like that when you read this yon descendants, then the fittest won.

Let's hope it's the right ones.



Image may contain: cat, text that says 'When your replacement head finally arrives in your mail. A U RAG'

6 posted on 06/28/2020 4:27:37 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Alas Babylon!
Excellent piece as usual.The driveby polls are so fake they are not worth looking at and I usually don't.

To imagine that the majority of American voters will vote in a dolt who hides in the basement,doesn't know where he is half the time whether he's running for the senate or potus and is just plain losing his mind is quite the stretch.

Add in the Nancy Piglosi constituents she wants us to embrace want to change history. Seems they don't like it.They also want to get rid of the police and then embrace communism!It's all just a bridge too far for me.

I'll take Trump's chances in this environment Every time.

7 posted on 06/28/2020 4:48:01 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic home of free because of the Brave)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Not watching it today, watching the Gander Outdoors Truck race at Pocono, the tricky Triangle, today. Better than seeing Chris Wall-Ass at breakfast...

8 posted on 06/28/2020 4:50:21 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-)could you shove)
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To: Fishtalk
Good stuff.Its amazing just how far the traitorous john Bolton will go to make a fat buck by lyhing ihis as off about Pres. Trump.HIs problem is in a few months he be little more than a foot note in hisotry about how a once well suppoeted supposed conservative turned out to be little more than a tratior. THe garage scene is captured once agin by the genius of POwerline and their fantastic cartoons.Heres a sample:

9 posted on 06/28/2020 4:55:24 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic home of free because of the Brave)
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11 posted on 06/28/2020 5:12:03 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month".)
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html much?

12 posted on 06/28/2020 5:13:30 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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FOX News pimping self-admitted ‘trained Marxists’ from

13 posted on 06/28/2020 5:19:19 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the
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This week I did something different.I was browsing around and I stumbled around looking at, of all things, a huge Dam in China.

It’s called the Three Gorges dam


The Three Gorges Dam is a hydroelectric gravity dam that spans the Yangtze River by the town of Sandouping, in Yiling District, Yichang, Hubei province, China. The Three Gorges Dam has been the world’s largest power station in terms of installed capacity since 2012.


The Three Gorges Reservoir Region is located in the upstream of the Yangtze River at the boundary of Chongqing municipality and Hubei province with the area of 59900 km² and with the population of 16 million. The Three Gorges Reservoir Region stretches along the Yangtze River from Jiangjin District of Chongqing to Yichang City of Hubei, which is very narrow and where the geography is complex. The mountainous areas represent 74% of the region only with 4.3% plain area in the river valley and 21.7% hilly area. The climate of the reservoir region of the Three Gorges Project is the subtropical monsoon climate. Its location is in the transfer between the northern temperate zone and the subtropical zone, where it is hot and it rains a lot with the annual rainfall of about 1100 mm. The valley of the Three Gorges Reservoir Region below 500 m has an annual temperature 17–19 °C and, with the frost-free period annually lasts 300–340 days. The annual runoff flow at the site of the dam of the Three Gorges Project is 451 billion m³ with the annual sediment discharge of 530 million tons. and is a huge project gone wrong in China like so many things do.

Here’s what initially go my in interest: The three gorges dam which dams the Yangtze river is reaching epic proportions and could possibly break open Even if it doesn’t it will one day for a variety of reasons.If and when it does here’s what Furbers guy wrote.

Directly there are close to 600 Million(others say 400 million—with a possible death toll of 100 million) if I’m getting the numbers correct in the direct path of the disaster. Assume at least a quarter die so 150M deaths.(100M) Maybe more or maybe less.

Indirectly it triggers a global financial collapse as it will take years for China to rebuild the dam and then years more to reach the same manufacturing capabilities it has now. That isn’t counting the general disruptions it would cause to their operations throughout the country if the CCP itself doesn’t fall completely destroying any output it has.

It’s really hard to actually give a real answer because it would almost literally be the end of China as we know it and the CCP along with it.

It would be such a global “clusterfork” that as much as I disdain the CCP I kind of don’t want the dam to break because Its going to f... my life up as well.

So Furbers guy claims this dam bursting is a huge issue that would be worldwide.Amazing.

more from Furbers guy thought to be a CIA asset but who really knows:

The upstream region of The Three Gorges Dam is currently experiencing historic rainfall and flooding. All of this water will accumulate and put pressure on the dam downstream. This may become The Three Gorges’ Dam’s greatest test since its creation Considering the Chicom record of incompetent structural engineering due to Communist willful ignorance, there is a real possibility of some negative event affecting the region as a consequence of the above mentioned factors. Sure, the dam my survive — and that’s possible. But denying the opposite, considering all of the circumstantial factors, is irrational.

Finally: yes, June is the major rainfall season for the Yangtze River Basin. Yes, the same region has been known to flood in June. However — and here’s the crucial point (and the reason why we’re discussing this event here) — the current volume of rainfall and associated flooding has been described as, “historic” and unprecedented. Therefore this discussion can be considered as one concerning a historic event: the rainfall. The dam, well this is indirectly associated. No rain, no water, no problem. Unfortunately for the Three Gorges Dam, there is currently plenty of rain, thus plenty of water, and as a result, the potential for a serious problem.


If it happens the rotation of the earth will slow (I checked into this and it won’t be a major issue where gravity will mess with us or any of that its almost a non issue except for the fact that it takes tremendous energy to make that happen) ......................

If you are curious about the discussion on the lifespan of the dam, here is an excerpt from the essay by the Chinese researcher who criticized the dam project, particularly due to the potential for creating havoc in the context of floods within the Yangtze River Basin upstream — which is what is exactly happening now. Note that the researcher does not specifically claim the dam will last 20 years because the dam was not completed at the time of the essay.

> Some Chinese say things that are difficult to understand, so you have to translate them. When the water storage is 135 meters, the water level at 500 kilometers is nearly 170 meters; in other words: when the normal storage of the Three Gorges Reservoir is 175 meters, the water level in Fuling area, 500 kilometers away from the dam site, may be as high as 210 meters. . Of course, the higher the water level, the larger the cross-section of the water. The water level must be less than 210 meters, but it is likely to be 200 meters above and below. So, what about Chongqing, which is more than 100 kilometers upstream? The elevation of 200 meters above sea level is the level of the uppermost step of Chongqing Chaotianmen Wharf. This level is the safety line of Chongqing.

Once flooded to this location, Chongqing is almost flooded. Chief Engineer Wang’s calculation has another condition. He counts it as a flood in 20 years. If it is a flood in 50 years, the water level will be even higher. Chongqing may be flooded! Under such circumstances, the reservoir had no choice but to store floods to ensure Chongqing’s safety. Knowing this already, why bother throwing so much money into the Yangtze River?

This was written in 2002, and Chongqing is now flooded, nearly 20 years later. Interesting, especially when the historic current rainfall is added to the situation.


All the rain in the area naturally will flow towards the Three Gorge’s Dam, as it is basically the pillar of hope for all water traversing in the area out to the East China Sea. Many supposed dams upstream that have been collapsing, and so have bridges.

If you got a massive wall ,with a few holes that don’t allow the same volume of water coming in as it let’s out, that’s suddenly stopping all that massive surge of destructive water that gains volume and mass, something that will gain in size bigger than it self in a matter of a week, it will eventually collapse and what ever destructive force that comes with it will crash on down at alarming force on anything downstream. The stagnant, but high turbulent water (due to ship transportation, natural forces etc) have been carving the landscape and creating earth quakes and land slides along it’s upstream river path since it’s opening in 2012. It had 8 years to change the terrain to hold more water than it is supposedly was able to hold in the first place. It’s a colossal mistake that should never have happened, and the entire world is going to suffer after it’s eventual collapse.

When you got a pool that’s building in size that will be able to retain more volume and mass, do you think the surrounding wall will be able to handle the massive difference it wasn’t made to withstand?

The answer is a big fat no.


China has suffered from continuous heavy rains recently, as many as 24 provinces have been affected by floods, and the sound of the dam break of the Three Gorges Dam in the Yangtze River has just started. The Chongqing Hydrological Monitoring Station has issued the first red warning of the floods of the Qijiang River in history.(actually it’s the first “red warning” in 40 years one of the reasons there is so much news about the dam since the Chinese take their warnings seriously) take Affected by rainfall, it is expected that the Chongqing section of the Qijiang River Basin Super historical floods will occur in the next 8 hours.

Wang Weiluo, a well-known water conservancy expert in China, once warned that the flood control function of the Three Gorges Dam is useless. Residents in the middle and lower reaches of the Yangtze River should prepare lifesaving equipment and plan escape routes as soon as possible. Once the levee breaks, the flood will rush all the way to Shanghai and the estuary will “ It’s all done.”

Actually if the dam breaks it also threatens Wuhan the fabled start of the wu flu a city of over 10 million people.

Wang Weiluo said that the Three Gorges Dam was constructed by the same team from engineering demonstration, design and final construction quality inspection. It was undoubtedly a player and a referee. Qian Zhengying, Zhang Guangdou and other scholars responsible for the design and quality inspection of the Three Gorges Dam, The letter to Guo Shuyan, deputy director of the Three Gorges Dam Construction Project, mentioned at the time: “In fact, the quality (quality) of the Three Gorges Project is not as good as we wrote. The quality (quality) of the Three Gorges Project is average because it is built too It’s fast, the time is too short.”

In addition, according to the Chongqing Maritime Department, due to the effects of continuous heavy rains, the water level of Chongqing Beibei, Cuntan, Changshou and other rivers rose significantly on the 18th local time, ushering in the first flood peak this year, and temporary traffic control was imposed on some waters. Passenger ships and ro-ro ships pass through the waters of Huangcao Gorge and Tongluo Gorge.

However, today (22nd) at 11:50, the history of Chongqing Hydrological Monitoring Station issued the first red warning of Qijiang flood. Affected by rainfall, it is expected that over-historical floods will occur in the Chongqing section of the Qijiang River Basin in the next 8 hours. The highest water level of the Wucha Station in the Qijiang River in Jiangjin District will exceed the guaranteed water level (200.51 meters) by about 5.7 to 6.3 meters, an increase of about 10 to 11 meters. Call on the villagers to prepare for disaster prevention.


When one investigates how the Chicoms literally built a broken dam in Ecuador just a few years ago.

An inspection of the structure in November 2018 discovered 7,600 cracks in the eight distributors that inject water into turbines. The cracks are due to the use of substandard building materials and inferior welds.( same thing happening in the three Gorges Dam,its already showing a bulge from aerial shots a sign its partially bending.The big problem is that when the pilings were installed instead of drilling into the bedrock and then pouring concrete those who built the dam,Chinese,built it right on top of the bedrock with no support underneath!

This alone created a time bomb that will blow up one day and when it does be prepared for what was introduced by furber,a huge worldwide disaster effecting not only China but the entire world.

If that wasn’t enough the dam was built on a fault line with earthquakes up toe 8.1 predicted in time.Talk about a huge cluster just waiting to happen.

They can understand why a buildup in water volume due to historic rainfall and flooding within the upstream region of the Yangtze River Basin can accumulate into a steady force putting enough pressure on just the right crack within the Three Gorges Dam to slowly expand into severe structural damage.

It’s worth remembering: there *is documented evidence* that the Coca Codo Sinclair (CCS) Hydroelectric Power Plant in Ecuador was built by the same Chicoms who built the Three Gorges Dam — and the CCS included over 7,000 cracks and had to be evaluated by a German company afterwards due to Chicom incompetence. Reports suggest the Ecuadorian government is cautious of the dam, and justifiably so.

>It’s too massive an event to be so generally unnoticed. Surely people living at the time of Chernobyl had a similar thought.

Raising attention here might help to save lives, either now or in the future. Who knows who is lurking. Why do people here immediately think that this discussion involves folks who are cheering on an event that may lead to the deaths of innocent Chinese peasants? Ending of the CCP regime, sure — but the death of innocent peasants due to CCP willful ignorance of structural engineering due to internal Party corruption, that is a very serious crime.


More on the instability of the dam,forget where I got this one:

****************KEY STUFF HERE*********** It isn’t fake. They didn’t secure the dam to the bedrock, they set the pylons on the river bed. It(the dam) isn’t even CONNECTED TO THE BEDROCK!

China hired out the job, and some BEST PRICE company came and produced an improperly welded and improperly mixed concrete dam that was not connected to the bedrock in order to save cost.

The warping is happening because water is seeping underneath the disconnected pylons and moving them. This dam is literal sh_t engineering and will kill millions if the CCP doesn’t evacuate!

It is almost too crazy to be true, like a perfect storm. The dam was weakened in 2018-2019 when the first pictures of warping were released, and in 2020, the very same year China killed the world with corona, the dam receives record rainfall.

The thing they didn’t account for is when this much water is dammed up, it actually puts too much weight on the tectonic plates, and can trigger massive earthquakes.

a single 8.0+ quake combined with historic flooding, combined with already warped infrastructure will cause this disaster to manifest.


more on the dam if you are curious: ....................

bd on the three gorges

Too busy dealing with local issues You really don’t understand the Chinese or more specifically the CCP. This would be the end of them. They won’t be concerned with any of that until they get their enemies under control and prevent them from gaining from their loss as their own country will be rising up against them as well. They would strike out hard against every outside force first so they have a chance of dealing with the internal strife without being taken advantage of. Because the CCP cares about the CCP.

Also it doesn’t have to be nukes. China has had free reign to move cargo into the country for years. There could be nuclear weapons within the country, there could be EMPs ready to detonate, plagues ready to be unleashed on the heartlands and any number of things which would be suicide under any other circumstance but not in this case.

The dam breaking is CCP being fatally wounded. They strike out against otherwise healthy targets because they are likely to die anyway. Those hit can either deal with the issues China created and then strike back or deal with the issues and wait. Because there is no point in starting a nuclear war with a foe that is already dying even if they already nuked you.

I may come off sounding crazy but its hard to really explain the Chinese mindset without interacting with them. (the preceding from Furbers guy.)


Heres a late addition once again from Furbers guy: Right now the Chinese are pretty f__ked up. Xi had the virus and recovered but it has returned and has affected his brain so we will see what happens there. Really not the time to have a lot of instability at the top of China right now. The justification for recognizing Taiwan is the Chinese can no longer be trusted and their actions regarding the virus have shown them to be well unsound. Suspect one of the carriers may dock in Taiwan. Nothing special. Keep in mind Taiwan has had nuclear weapons for over 20 years and they are serious about putting one up Xi`s ass if they invade. If the dam goes China will be f__ked up for 50 years. Heard things about the dam but better not to go there. The Chinese will try to steal the vaccine but for it to work they will need a lot of work. .......................

One of the things that may have been heard is that the computer system that runs the dam may have or may become compromised.Who knows,the only thing I know for sure is that one day that dam will fail simply because of the way it was built.

14 posted on 06/28/2020 5:19:43 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic home of free because of the Brave)
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To: mo

See #14. I just asked the mods to get rid of 10 computer screwed up again or something went wrong I don’t know what.

15 posted on 06/28/2020 5:22:02 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic home of free because of the Brave)
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To: rodguy911; Alas Babylon!

Yes, Rod its amazing that Bolton got his book out. More flubs by Trump’s and DOJ attorneys not getting a stay and appeal. Philip Agee wrote a tell all about the CIA that never got published in USA due to a prior restraint court decision. Non-disclosure agreements plus classified information claims work for anyone else except Trump. I got my copy in Amsterdam. Agee died in Cuba. Maybe Bolton will too.

As for books, Trump’s niece Mary is releasing one soon about how crooked the family financing has been and how they “cheated” her lush dad who is Trump’s ne’er-do-well brother Freddy, Jr.

Alas - Thanks for the thread. Should Trump take Tucker’s advice and come out hard on rioters? Or is it a trap as Rush suggests?

16 posted on 06/28/2020 5:28:06 AM PDT by shalom aleichem (Get movin' Durham!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Seattle Cops Gassing and Bombing RATicals

It’ll make your day.

17 posted on 06/28/2020 5:30:32 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month".)
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To: rodguy911

Excellent piece as usual.The driveby polls are so fake they are not worth looking at and I usually don’t.
To imagine that the majority of American voters will vote in a dolt who hides in the basement,doesn’t know where he is half the time whether he’s running for the senate or potus and is just plain losing his mind is quite the stretch.
They are push polls, made to discourage, just like 2016.
The other nefariousess, is the undecided...There is no such thing...that is only there to give the MSM their gap to show PDJT improving somehow as the election is closer...BS.

PDJT is up 15-20pts

18 posted on 06/28/2020 5:31:19 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Be still, and know that I am God...Psalm 46:10)
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or not

19 posted on 06/28/2020 5:34:25 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: shalom aleichem

I found out a lot of things about Bolton I didn’t know he was bad news.

20 posted on 06/28/2020 5:35:49 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic home of free because of the Brave)
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