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India may re-evaluate neutrality in the US-China war
The Sunday Guardian ^ | June 20, 2020, 9:10 pm | M D Nalapat

Posted on 06/20/2020 5:01:14 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

New Delhi: The People’s Republic of China has, since 1949, had three transformational leaders: Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping and now Xi Jinping. All three threw into the waste basket the agreements and protocols agreed upon till then and negotiated their own versions for adoption, whenever they regarded doing so as advantageous to China. Mao charted an entirely new course in domestic and foreign policy, as did Deng. The latter had the advantage of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leadership rungs all but destroyed by the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution of the 1960s. He was, therefore, enabled to slice through the opposition of the ideologues to his plans at bringing China into the front rank of the world’s economies when at the time it was lagging behind India, a country that saw a much lower growth rate during the 1950s to the 1970s than even Pakistan.

When Xi Jinping took over from Hu Jintao in 2012, the rest of the party leadership was strong to a degree that it had not been during the period in office of the growth-focused Jiang Zemin and the first term of the softer hand of Hu Jintao. Xi moved carefully but steadily in consolidating his control over the entire machinery of the CCP. The war that he unleashed on corrupt officials proved effective in getting rid of several within the various rungs of the party machine who had been less than enthusiastic about the new boss in town. Although reports continue to surface, especially outside China, about fissures and cabals designed to weaken the now limitless-termed General Secretary of the CCP, the reality remains that by 2017, Xi had achieved mastery over even the People’s Liberation Army, an important—indeed vital—component of the Party. It was perhaps not entirely coincidental that this was the year when

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; dengxiaoping; hujintao; india; jiangzemin; kag; maga; maozedong; pakistan; trump; xijinping
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Is India's Hamlet act over? Is it about to join the loose coalition that has formed to attempt to ward off the Chinese land grabs to come? The Sunday Guardian, an Indian paper quite distinct from the UK's Manchester Guardian, says the answer is a strong maybe.
1 posted on 06/20/2020 5:01:14 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

Indeed, it appears to be a definite ‘perhaps.’


2 posted on 06/20/2020 5:08:49 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Zhang Fei

I would say it’s well past time for them to wake up and smell the coffee. Playing nice with Russia and other in the past has really not served them well in their border struggles with China, who are getting wildly more aggressive with everyone i the region.


3 posted on 06/20/2020 5:09:24 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: BeauBo; Texas Fossil; nuconvert; fatman6502002; central_va; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Ping


4 posted on 06/20/2020 5:11:35 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

US-India-Japan should free Tibet


5 posted on 06/20/2020 5:12:17 PM PDT by va22030
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To: catbertz

India is the only nation in Asia, besides Russia that could even conceivably challenge China. It has taken some steps with its navy but needs to step up.


6 posted on 06/20/2020 5:13:38 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until The PIAPS is legally executed)
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To: va22030

They’ll be scared out of their turbans.


7 posted on 06/20/2020 5:13:43 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Zhang Fei

What US-China War?


8 posted on 06/20/2020 5:13:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Fai Mao

True true. They need to start by building their own, and buying from Western manufacturers. Russia has never been a good deal for them, in many cases a terrible deal for naval and aircraft orders.


9 posted on 06/20/2020 5:15:28 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: catbertz

Yep. They also have some of the highest tariffs on US made goods and services of ANY nation.


10 posted on 06/20/2020 5:19:19 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: va22030

no thanks

its a china india territorial dispute

not ours

know what things NOT to get involved with


11 posted on 06/20/2020 5:21:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: va22030

More global policing?
Are you the ghost of John McCain?


12 posted on 06/20/2020 5:23:13 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: BenLurkin

Trade war.


13 posted on 06/20/2020 5:23:45 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: libh8er

It’s only a war now because we are fighting back.


14 posted on 06/20/2020 5:24:37 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: BenLurkin
What US-China War?

You know? Maybe we should have led with that question.

15 posted on 06/20/2020 5:27:37 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: libh8er

Ah!


16 posted on 06/20/2020 5:28:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I still think that, between India and China, it may very well turn into a demographic war, by tacit agreement both sides using older small arms and light artillery only, with the purpose of wiping out 30-100 million surplus young men.

Very similar in structure to the bloody WWI Battles of the Isonzo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_the_Isonzo

Except at 100 times the size.


17 posted on 06/20/2020 5:30:21 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Poor kids are just as bright, just as talented, as white kids." - Joe Biden)
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China has foolishly angered the entire world with the Covid disaster. Then, they have acted hyper aggressively with all their neighbors and the US. If they do get into a war with Vietnam or India, it’s possible that their neighbors may see it as an opportunity to do some threat reduction by moving troops into China.

China maintains some 200 ships that are ostensibly fishing boats, but who act as the eyes, ears and sometimes the mussel against other fishing boats. I could see all of those sunk by a few corvettes.

Hong Kong, The Uygurs, Tibet, India, Vietnam and Taiwan...not to mention hassling Japan...that’s a lot of pissed off people who will take any opportunity to do China dirty if they can. The first domino will probably be something unexpected...like that mountain where North Korea tested its nukes collapsing and raining radiation all over China and starting riots. I think the Chinese have bitten off more than they can chew.


18 posted on 06/20/2020 5:31:23 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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To: Zhang Fei

I saw an episode of Firing Line with Daniel Moynihan as guest.

Buckley mentioned that India would take food given to India by America and stamp it as a gift of the USSR. Moynihan who had been Ambassador to India, confirmed that was true.


19 posted on 06/20/2020 5:31:48 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: BenLurkin

[What US-China War?]


The one that will break out when Xi Jinping orders his army to make him famous (or infamous, if he loses), in the name of reclaiming lost provinces. There’s even a pretext for a Chinese claim to the Americas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Menzies

But that’s all any future Chinese ruler needs. Since the beginning of time, that’s all these things have been - pretexts to motivate the soldiers who have to risk their lives in battle and the civilians they leave behind, who have to pay for the cost of keeping them resupplied.


20 posted on 06/20/2020 5:33:04 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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