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The Anti-Police Rioters Finally Got Me To Buy My First Gun
The Federalist ^ | June 19, 2020 | Greg Jones

Posted on 06/19/2020 10:39:26 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

A “Neutral” (they do not own a usable self-defense weapon) on the 2A FRiend of mine emailed me the other day and asked what kind of shotgun she and hubby should buy.

Shocked, (I NEVER expected her to ask me THAT question!) I responded: “20 GA Mossberg 500 pump and 100 rounds of #4 Buck. Get more ammo if you think you need it.”

Will find out tonight what they have done about it. I’ll also suggest they get a revolver and arrange for some range time.


41 posted on 06/19/2020 11:17:56 AM PDT by Taxman (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AGAIN!)
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To: TomServo; Kaslin

Knowing how and when to use a hand gun requires a huge amount of range time. Buying one is just a first step. Pray that he becomes a strategic thinker, fast and accurate with a well developed knowledge of his state and local laws.

A pump action shot gun would round out his security.


42 posted on 06/19/2020 11:18:08 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
A pistol is a compromise, self-defense wise. Its only benefit is that it can be carried concealed outside the home. ANyone choosing a pistol over an appropriate long gun for home defense is making a mistake.

I get wanting one gun that does both, but if one truly thinks he made need a firearm to defend his life or others', I'd want the best tool for the job, which is a long gun, ie. AR-15. A shotgun is a distant 2nd.

43 posted on 06/19/2020 11:18:58 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: dljordan

LOL, slam on the brakes, “where’d it go?!”


44 posted on 06/19/2020 11:19:58 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: windsorknot
Ditto. Any recommendations out there?

I'm also looking for recommendations - hopefully I get a pointer to an inexpensive, quality shotgun before I give in to temptation and start looking into those expensive Benellis =).
45 posted on 06/19/2020 11:20:02 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I'd want the best tool for the job, which is a long gun, ie. AR-15. A shotgun is a distant 2nd.

Good info, thanks. Why is a shotgun 2nd choice?
46 posted on 06/19/2020 11:21:11 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: OftheOhio

Higher mag capacity, easier to shoot fast accurately, modern duty-quality projectiles have narrowed the gap between calibers.


47 posted on 06/19/2020 11:21:58 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: dljordan

but don’t give the police any reason to stop you.


48 posted on 06/19/2020 11:22:21 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: windsorknot

AR-15


49 posted on 06/19/2020 11:22:37 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: TheRightGuy

It’s probably a 25rd drum. Even those are ludricously huge.


50 posted on 06/19/2020 11:24:27 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: windsorknot; AnotherUnixGeek
Maverick 88 Security by Mossberg. Add a Knoxx stock if you are recoil sensitive and it's like shooting something much smaller.
51 posted on 06/19/2020 11:25:54 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Kaslin; All

With practice, unclouded mind and situational awareness, you would not believe the sense of calmness you have when imminent danger is at hand.

OK...I’ll tell it. I was dog-sitting my son’s house several years ago. My son was on vacation and had a lot of valuable items in his house and a lot of “friends” knew he was on vacay. It was 3am, the dog was on the bed. All of a sudden the dog yipped one time to the sound of shattering glass. I very quickly came to my senses and grabbed my gun on the nightstand next to me. No other sounds. I tippy-toed downstairs because he has a walkout. NOTHING. I came back upstairs in the dark and heard no further sounds. I finally decided to turn on the kitchen light. I looked over at the front door (with a tall side window next to it). That’s where I thought that I had heard the sound from. Sure enough...that was it. The dome light cover in the entranceway had fallen from above and shattered on the tile floor. HOW did this happen? Dunno. I blamed it on my deceased uncle Cliff playing tricks on me.
FEAR??? Not one second of FEAR with that gun in my hand. Music? OK....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIR6AAjEg5U


52 posted on 06/19/2020 11:30:24 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
MOre recoil, less mag capacity, slower to reload, more difficult to add optics.

Think about it, if you are choosing a gun for a gunfight, to stop your opponent and defend your own life, you would be wise to look at what special ops chooses for that purpose. Invariably, special ops forces around the world choose a variant of the M4 carbine as their primary weapon. Not pump shotguns, not full caliber battle rifles (M14, FAL, G3). Not handguns (those are "secondary," ie. backup weapons).

53 posted on 06/19/2020 11:31:02 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: windsorknot

” Ditto. Any recommendations out there?”

Remington 870 Wingmaster , 12 Gauge , Pump.

Affordable and reliable.


54 posted on 06/19/2020 11:35:15 AM PDT by EnglishOnly (eeWFight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: Kaslin

I will not make a new purchase because I don’t want to go into a database.


55 posted on 06/19/2020 11:35:51 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

No, don’t get me wrong, you would be quite well equipped with a 12 ga pump, especially if you can’t, or don’t want to, spend the money on an AR. But, as I said, there’s a reason why professional gunfighters don’t choose them for anything other than blowing hinges off doors.


56 posted on 06/19/2020 11:43:02 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Kaslin

I had a friend shoot his toe off with a 9mm, just saying, lol.


57 posted on 06/19/2020 11:43:52 AM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

But that is because they are allowed to shoot combatants that are known to not be innocent, but are hundreds of feet away.

For people in a home in town, a rifle is the least helpful gun. A shotgun or pistol is far better.

On the farm, rifles and shotguns are what we expected to use.


58 posted on 06/19/2020 11:45:14 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I don’t understand why you think one person will kick in your door instead of 1000.


59 posted on 06/19/2020 11:49:39 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Higher mag capacity. Pfft.


60 posted on 06/19/2020 11:50:49 AM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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