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Shooting of Justine Damond (Black on White shot and killed by Minneapolis Police Officer)
The Guardian ^ | July 2017 | Wikipedia

Posted on 06/08/2020 12:24:43 PM PDT by Hostage

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To: shelterguy

Yeah, it’s absolutely true and *you* know it.

The Somali cop should have been arrested and charged the same day. Same thing with the Floyd cops. As the cops/DA often say, “Let the jury sort it out.”


21 posted on 06/08/2020 1:23:03 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Because there was, I don’t know, video?

And as cops themselves tell us, well, if evidence comes to light clearing you, we’ll drop the charges. In the meantime, to jail with you.

This should also apply to the police, not just us ‘peons.’


22 posted on 06/08/2020 1:24:49 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

“””””’The Somali cop should have been arrested and charged the same day. Same thing with the Floyd cops. As the cops/DA often say, “Let the jury sort it out.””””””””””

There was no doubt how the unarmed civilian died when the somali cop blasted her.

The cause of death for Saint Floyd is still under investigation.

The standard procedure in a case like this is to put the cops on leave until it all gets investigated.

Here they were all fired immediately and charged without investigation of any substance.

You should look up due process some time. It’s a pretty cool thing.


23 posted on 06/08/2020 1:28:29 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Spktyr
And as cops themselves tell us, well, if evidence comes to light clearing you, we’ll drop the charges. In the meantime, to jail with you.

 

I see. And now that new evidence has in fact come to light (forensic report), are you ready to drop the charges?

Yeah, I didn't think so. Because... video.

24 posted on 06/08/2020 1:30:10 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

There are dueling forensic reports, as I recall.

I’m as willing to drop the charges as Abel Reyna was down in Waco for his boilerplate charging, endless delay tactics and “arrest everyone in the area involved or not” crap was for everyone involved in his motorcycle gathering debacle.


25 posted on 06/08/2020 1:42:37 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: shelterguy

Again - the police tell us that due process is served by arresting you prior to a significant investigation and then letting the jury sort it out. I see no reason it shouldn’t apply to police.


26 posted on 06/08/2020 1:44:07 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

There are dueling forensic reports, as I recall.

______________________________________

You recall correctly.

One by the Hennepin County Coroner.

Another bought and paid for by Crump and the BLM.


27 posted on 06/08/2020 1:47:03 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: Spktyr

“””””””””Again - the police tell us that due process is served by arresting you prior to a significant investigation and then letting the jury sort it out.””””””””””””

Wrong. Unless a cause of death is easy to determine and they see intent.

You see only what you want to see and are trying to ignore everything else to fit your predetermined conclusion.
That’s not how it works.

Do your friends at democratic underground agree with you?


28 posted on 06/08/2020 1:48:38 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Responsibility2nd

Honestly, I don’t trust either. Hennepin CC wrote the Damond report in such a way to try to avoid admitting that Noor shot her and then couched the rest of it like Noor was doing her a favor by shooting her.

Someone should have gotten an uninvolved, impartial coroner to do a report.

But again, civilians in this situation would be jailed first, investigated second.


29 posted on 06/08/2020 1:50:48 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Oooh. A strawman argument.

Does that usually work in proving your point ? No?

Then why bring up Abel Reyna and Waco?


30 posted on 06/08/2020 1:50:49 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: shelterguy

Nope. But the police and courts that I’ve had personal experience with in LA and in Texas do exactly that.

You might want to read up on the travesty that was the “Waco Biker Massacre” - see the posts here on FR to see how that crap all unraveled. Sadly not uncommon.


31 posted on 06/08/2020 1:51:55 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I bring them up because for many departments and DAs, what Reyna did is standard procedure. Officers state that if they find evidence to exonerate you, you’ll be cleared immediately. Then the DA “mysteriously” doesn’t follow through, drags their heels, ruins your life and takes years to admit that they have exonerating evidence.

I feel that all citizens, police or not, should be subjected to the same justice system. If the above is what the local DA does to citizens, then the police should have to go through the same thing.


32 posted on 06/08/2020 1:54:09 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Waco Biker Massacre?

Spy.... One always knows when an argument has been lost when that person starts in on a new argument.


33 posted on 06/08/2020 1:54:42 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: Spktyr

The cops were fired even before the cause of death was known.

The “leaders” determined it was murder immediately.

So did you.

Maybe the cops also filled him up with fentanyl and meth right before they arrested him.


34 posted on 06/08/2020 1:55:26 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Responsibility2nd

Not a new argument. I am still saying the same thing, let the jury sort it out.


35 posted on 06/08/2020 1:55:59 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: shelterguy

Um, I don’t recall saying they should be fired. Firing would be separate from charges and trial.


36 posted on 06/08/2020 1:56:35 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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You wanna talk about the Waco Biker Massacre? Sure.

I remember that. It’s there one where a bunk of outlaw bikers got into a gunfight with LEO’s.

And lost.

That about right? Just like a career thug on drugs resisted arrest and died as a result of his stupidity on Memorial Day in Minneapolis?


37 posted on 06/08/2020 1:58:26 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: Spktyr

So you believe in partial due process. Got it.


38 posted on 06/08/2020 1:58:50 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Responsibility2nd

bunk? I meant bunch. But bunk works OK.


39 posted on 06/08/2020 1:59:30 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

And if all they’d done is arrest those directly involved, that wouldn’t be a problem.

The problem is that they literally arrested every non-employee in the general vicinity, including people seen on video to be uninvolved, literally on the other side of the parking lot or just driving by at the time and who did nothing but GTFO of the shooting vicinity. The DA then boilerplate charged all those arrested and despite having video evidence that most of the people he was charging were uninvolved refused to drop any charges for *years,* screwing over peoples’ careers and lives. Even today, Waco DA refuses to release seized property of those who have had charges dropped against them and refuses to compensate them.


40 posted on 06/08/2020 2:05:56 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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