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The CDC's New 'Best Estimate' Implies a COVID-19 Infection Fatality Rate Below 0.3%
reason.com ^ | 5-25-20 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 05/25/2020 4:15:28 PM PDT by NoLibZone

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To: NoLibZone

Flu Season That’s Sickened 26 Million May Be at Its Peak

Feb. 21, 2020, at 9:00 a.m.

The percentage of deaths attributed to flu and pneumonia currently is 6.8%, which is below the epidemic threshold of 7.3% , according to the CDC.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-02-21/flu-season-thats-sickened-26-million-may-be-at-its-peak


21 posted on 05/25/2020 4:49:35 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We failed the single biggest test of our resolve. It's illegal to protest our government in public.)
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To: NoLibZone
Let's see.

This disease is 3 to 4 times more deadly than the seasonal flu.

By most accounts it's significantly more contagious.

Unlike the flu we don't have effective treatment drugs.

Unlike the flu we don't have a vaccine.

Given this I don't see how what we did was an overreaction.

22 posted on 05/25/2020 4:51:15 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Karl Spooner

“Biggest hoax ever.”

I really do think we have to consider the possibility they, the Dems aligned with the Chicoms, created a panic and crashed the economy for political reasons, specifically to get rid of Trump. I think they brought the virus to Europe and the US deliberately. The sickest part is that they needed to boost the death toll numbers to make it all seem legit. And did they ever. The Cuomo nursing home policy - no one is that stupid. And New York wasn’t the only state that did this.

I’m not saying we should go around saying that we know this to be true, since it is so outrageous. But I am saying that people in positions of authority should do some investigating, because sometimes people do commit crimes. Sometimes they commit big ones.


23 posted on 05/25/2020 4:52:40 PM PDT by FreedomVsControl
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To: Eleutheria5

For once women and children not hit hardest, but the virus probably kills two Democrats for every one Republican. Unfortunately most of those Republicans will be mailing in Democrat votes in the next election.


24 posted on 05/25/2020 4:53:13 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: NoLibZone

L8r


25 posted on 05/25/2020 4:54:47 PM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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To: NoLibZone

They had to MURDER elderly people to inflate the death number...will ANYONE pay the penalty for this?


26 posted on 05/25/2020 4:56:00 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: FreedomVsControl

Yup, and there are going to be major lawsuits concerning the damage done to small businesses while allowing major businesses to operate, too. The governments involved are liable to make them whole again or make just restitution for forcing them out of business.


27 posted on 05/25/2020 5:02:33 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: NoLibZone
So if you are under 50, the fatality rate is 1/2 ... 1/2 .. the overall case fatality rate of the flu.

It assumes an overall symptomatic case fatality rate (CFR) of 0.4 percent, roughly four times the estimated CFR for the seasonal flu. The CDC estimates that the CFR for COVID-19 falls to 0.05 percent among people younger than 50 and rises to 1.3 percent among people 65 and older. For people in the middle (ages 50–64), the estimated CFR is 0.2 percent.

Did I just read that right? Under 50 fatality rate is ONE HALF the overall CFR of flu? Now I get that's worse than the flu-for-under-50. But holy SHITE!

28 posted on 05/25/2020 5:07:58 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: Reeses

Optimistic?


29 posted on 05/25/2020 5:11:19 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: NoLibZone

I don’t know about the rest of y’all but I think models are a bunch of crap. Starting with the ‘global warming’ models, all the models, including likely this one are wrong.

The world’s reaction to the CCPvirus would have been very different if the models had been right.

Models are correct only after whatever they were modeling has past and adjustments have been made to the models based on actual results, a little of which we’re seeing here. This whole episode has been a farce.


30 posted on 05/25/2020 5:12:05 PM PDT by upchuck (Windows 10 is just a fancy spying machine with troublesome, mandatory updates.)
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To: who knows what evil?

“They had to MURDER elderly people to inflate the death number...will ANYONE pay the penalty for this?”

I think our focus should be on the health officials of these northeastern blue states. I would want investigators to get warrants to review all their communications from January through April.


31 posted on 05/25/2020 5:15:08 PM PDT by FreedomVsControl
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To: tinyowl

And in case you don’t have any underlying pathology and are otherwise healthy, we’ll put a 20-year-old psychopath in your room at the nursing home to give you Covid-19 while he beats you. If you die of a brain hemorrhage from the beating, we’ll count it as dying with Covid-19. Welcome to the brave new world.


32 posted on 05/25/2020 5:15:21 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: upchuck

“I don’t know about the rest of y’all but I think models are a bunch of crap. Starting with the ‘global warming’ models, all the models, including likely this one are wrong.”

I agree. I don’t think most people realize that many of these computer models don’t deserve to be called science. They may incorproate a lot of well-established scientific knowledge, but in order for a computer model to be truly scientific, it has to be able to reproduce at least one previous example of the kind of thing it is deisgned to predict. Climate models can’t even reproduce the observed temperature variability in the US over the past 100 years... they are not ready for prime time, and certainly should be relied upon to make decisions that would affect everyone on the planet!


33 posted on 05/25/2020 5:26:20 PM PDT by FreedomVsControl
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To: NoLibZone

A new study estimates the death rate in the US from the novel coronavirus is around 1.3 percent.

That makes the virus at least 10 times deadlier than the seasonal flu, which had a death rate of 0.1 percent in 2018-19.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8307763/US-death-rate-coronavirus-1-3-making-10-times-fatal-seasonal-flu.html

This is just one - the .1% value was the commonly reported number across many news sites.


34 posted on 05/25/2020 5:27:49 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: NoLibZone
Trump and supporters proved correct.

Some of us, anyway. That excludes the Fearpers here.

35 posted on 05/25/2020 5:31:46 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: NoLibZone

Yep.


36 posted on 05/25/2020 5:33:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyrants don't just give you your freedoms back. You have to take them.)
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To: semimojo
This disease is 3 to 4 times more deadly than the seasonal flu.

Under 0.3 would make it less than three times as deadly.

This is not the equivalent of the Spanish flu.

37 posted on 05/25/2020 5:34:03 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Skywise

yet liberal state like NY/NJ/Mass is pushing up the rates.

Here are some mortality rates calculated just this afternoon:

NY 7.8% Average Median Age 39
NJ 7.1% AMA 40
Ma 6.9% AMA 39.4
PA 7.2% AMA 40.8
Fl 4.3% AMA 42.2
Tx 2.7%
La 7.8% (red state outlier)
Ga 4.2%


38 posted on 05/25/2020 5:35:46 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: FreedomVsControl

Should not?


39 posted on 05/25/2020 5:36:37 PM PDT by Does so (Slow Joe needs a FOOD tester...)
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To: Skywise
>> 3% is still 3x more than the average flu death rate of 1%

0.3% -- not 3%. Which means that Covid-19 death rate is ONE-THIRD the flu death rate.

40 posted on 05/25/2020 5:38:02 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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