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The sleeping giant awakens again: Our policy with China must be nothing less than regime change
American Thinker ^ | 05/23/2020 | By Fritz Pettyjohn

Posted on 05/23/2020 7:05:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

They always underestimate us. First it was King George III, then it was Kaiser Wilhelm. Then came the fascists of Japan, followed quickly by Adolf Hitler. Then came Stalin, followed by a succession of Russian communists. Now it's the chairman of the Communist Party of China, Xi Jinping.

Our 40th President, Ronald Reagan, promised to dump the Russian communists on the ash heap of history and proceeded to do just that. We will do the same to the Chinese communists, and we will do it as a united nation, with all partisanship set aside. The American people demand nothing less.

We've finally found something Speaker Pelosi and President Trump agree on. With their crackdown on the brave people of Hong Kong, the communists have crossed their red line. If exporting the Wuhan virus wasn't enough, this brutal betrayal of the people of Hong Kong demonstrates beyond doubt that the Chinese communists are just like all the communists all over the world. They are reckless, indifferent to human life and suffering, and hungry for world power. They will stop at nothing — unless they are stopped.

Our policy with China must be nothing less than regime change. We want the people of China to overthrow the Communist Party and replace it with a new government of their choosing. Hopefully, it will be democratic, but that's up to them.

We will not go to war with the Chinese communists, just as we didn't have a shooting war with the Russian communists. It won't be necessary to put boots on the ground. There will be no military conflict unless they choose to somehow confront the United States Navy in the South China Sea. But they can't be that foolish, can they?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ccp; china; regimechange
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1 posted on 05/23/2020 7:05:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

YES!!!!

The Great One believed when so many laughed at him.

I was 12 and I didn’t laugh but I understood enough about the USSR and communism that it wasn’t going ANYWHERE.

Impossible.

No way...

Trump is like The Great One in that he believes the impossible is possible.

Two Great Americans


2 posted on 05/23/2020 7:19:02 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals N racists dont point ftingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: dp0622

The issue will be decided in Shanghai and the Pearl River Delta


3 posted on 05/23/2020 7:21:02 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: SeekAndFind
We want the people of China America to overthrow the Communist Party and replace it with a new government of their choosing. Hopefully, it will be democratic, but that's up to them.
4 posted on 05/23/2020 7:25:27 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: bert

As I’ve gotten older, I’ve shed my embarrassment of not knowing a whole lot :)

Where is the Pearl River Delta and why is it important?

Even worse, I must ask how Shanghai is involved.

Thanks in advance.


5 posted on 05/23/2020 7:28:13 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals N racists dont point ftingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: unixfox

Better if the Chinese do it. If the people replace this evil regime with a good, democratic leader ( like Sun Yat Sen ), then maybe, China can be trusted once again but not until.


6 posted on 05/23/2020 7:28:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

We have too many high up in government and business who are sold out to the Chicoms, lock, stock, and barrel. Until we are rid of these in the most harsh manner possible, we cannot hope to deal with this enemy with any success.


7 posted on 05/23/2020 7:29:34 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also. Wall)
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To: dp0622

RE: Where is the Pearl River Delta and why is it important?

The Pearl River Delta (or PRD) is in the Southern and prosperous Guangdong province of China. It is a bustling region with massive manufacturing and trade. Economically and linguistically, the Special Administrative. The high tech city of Shenzen ( where the telecom tech giant, Huawei has its HQ, is in the PRD ).

Regions of Hong Kong and Macau — located on opposite sides of the mouth of the Pearl — are very much part of the PRD.


8 posted on 05/23/2020 7:30:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

My post was meant to say that, the American people need to overthrow OUR Communist government. i.e. democRAT party.


9 posted on 05/23/2020 7:30:31 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: SeekAndFind

So then it’s got nothing to do with naval battles I assume :)

The point being made was that if it loses many of its businesses it is more likely to fall?

thanks again


10 posted on 05/23/2020 7:32:39 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals N racists dont point ftingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: unixfox

And half the Hong Kongers?


11 posted on 05/23/2020 7:32:49 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They are not communists.

They are the perfection of fascism.

Facts matter.


12 posted on 05/23/2020 7:35:09 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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RE: The point being made was that if it loses many of its businesses it is more likely to fall?

Yes,that’s the idea. But China has many other options for her Belt and road initiative — she can deal with the socialistic regimes of South America, Africa and some Middle Eastern Countries.

The EU has (most probably) learned her lessons the hard way.

Asia? I am not so sure. Pakistan, Cambodia and Laos will probably still want to do business with China.


13 posted on 05/23/2020 7:37:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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In a very lengthy article Forbes a few years back described the Pearl River Delta as the fastest growing population and economic center on earth. It is in china and is territory north of Macau and Hong Kong which are located on both sides of the Pearl River.

It is the land of Taipan

The area has grown by tens of millions of people and has asI recall the 13th largest Gross Domestic Product in the world. It is populated by mostly young upwardly mobile people that enjoy prosperity and relative freedom never before experienced in China.

I think the same can be said of Shanghai which is China’s most populous city. It is not the way things were. It is architecturally up to date and the population is just different. They have the stuff we have. They apparently have pretty good lives. Better, much better than under real communism of the past.

What do they want? I will argue we don’t know.

As the President says....... we’ll see


14 posted on 05/23/2020 7:43:36 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Mariner

Evil by any other name is still evil, as they make Hitler or Stalin look like young school girls in comparison. Pol Pot was a nice man in that light.

The world has not seen evil on the scale of the CCP in many centuries.


15 posted on 05/23/2020 7:45:26 AM PDT by datura
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Uighers receive this - a young couple:

Falun Gong believers get the same - this was before they began bulk organ harvesting from live “donors”:

A survey of Chinese taken nationwide for the Ministry of Defense revealed that 80% of Chinese would shoot to kill women, children, and all non-combatants if they were told to in time of war. Boots on the ground in any war with China would only succeed if using complete ethnic cleansing- no rules of engagement.

16 posted on 05/23/2020 7:59:04 AM PDT by datura
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To: bert

wow. thanks man

yeah i don’t see how prosperity and communism have worked together quite well to some extent.

is it really still pure communism or some hybrid of...I don’t know.


17 posted on 05/23/2020 8:07:05 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals N racists dont point ftingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: SeekAndFind; bert

Wow. What a dynamic.

Will Asia rise in prosperity and get along instead of going to war?

is the west on the decline or seeing a new rise?

where does the shutting down of America and subsequent restarting fit in all of this? the 25 trillion debt?

But still the best navy in the world by far.

I did not know China has such modern cities as you described.

thanks


18 posted on 05/23/2020 8:09:55 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals N racists dont point ftingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: datura

That bottom picture was once supposed to be the execution of petty criminals and prostitutes. Its very old doing back the the 90s. There are also 2 more shots of the same execution and one of the whole scene where there are dozens of executions taking place, just finishing or waiting along the wall.


19 posted on 05/23/2020 8:21:45 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: dp0622

China has many modern cities but many of them were built on spec and on one lives in them


20 posted on 05/23/2020 8:23:16 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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