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Obama Did It.
The Dan Bongino Show ^ | May 15,2020 | Dan Bongino

Posted on 05/15/2020 8:11:11 PM PDT by rlmorel

On the Dan Bongino show today, he discussed an issue with has had a lot of theories advanced about it: Where did the FBI get the transcript of the phone conversation between Michael Flynn and the Russian Ambassador Kislyak?

There are a limited number of legal ways to get this conversation and the names of the two people, one a foreign national, one a US citizen:

  1. Go to a court and get warrant.

  2. Apply to a FISA court for the warrant.

  3. Surveill a foreign target or targets under the pretense of spying on them, but the real object is the American Citizen.

So, with the release of the list of people who requested unmasking of Flynn, everyone thought there would be a gem in there, only...there wasn't. That is curious. Between December 29, 2016 and January 4, 2017 (The day before the infamous meeting at the White House with Obama, Biden, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Yates, et al) there were no unmasking requests.

So...if there were no unmaking requests, and the FBI had it before January 4, 2017 with Flynn's name on it...how did that happen? There isn't a FISA application (that we know of) on Flynn. There isn't any warrant from the non-FISA courts. And if it WAS a reverse targeted surveillance, the discussion would STILL have to be unmasked.

In Comey's under oath Testimony on March 2, 2017 (From this testimony transcript) the then Director of the FBI said:

If Mr. Comey is telling the truth...WHERE IS THAT UNMASKING REQUEST?

So, then, how did it come to pass that, before January 4, 2017 (on which the first unmasking request is registered since the phone call) that the FBI had the named transcript?

As this EXCELLENT article at The Epoch Times: Flynn’s Name Never ‘Masked’ in Call Transcripts Briefed to Obama, Records Indicate

In the article, The Epoch times points out that Clapper, during a Congressional testimony, denied briefing Obama on the calls, but then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates told the FBI that Obama brought up the calls during a meeting on January 5, 2017She said she didn’t know at the time how Obama learned about the calls.

Really?

That makes this testimony by Andrew McCabe on December 19,2017 pretty interesting to read:

That conclusively states, under oath by Andrew McCabe, that there was NO TRANSCRIPT of the call that required unmasking.

So...how could they get a transcript, with no unmasking, the full name of Flynn displayed, no FISA (not revealed in the IG report), no criminal court warrant...How?

Well, as it turns out...there is one other way. And it is legal under the PATRIOT Act:

The President can direct Surveillance to take place without a FISA court involvement.

See this link that takes you right to the part of Bongino's webcast where he discusses this. I admit, I didn't know this.

He is referring to this provision of the PATRIOT Act: 50 U.S.C. 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal; duties and compensation of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court

This means that, a request from the PRESIDENT (Barack Obama) and CERTIFIED by THE ATTORNEY GENERAL (Loretta Lynch) is sufficient to approve JUST SUCH A DOCUMENT.

Did that happen? Did President Barack Obama order (through Loretta Lynch, the Attorney General) a warrantless surveillance of a foreign national? After all, they can't go after Flynn, right? So they have a foreign national (The Ambassador of Russia) they are surveilling, it is all legal and good, right?

And then, when Flynn is out of the country they spring the trap. Flynn goes down to the Dominican Republic on vacation. He is OFF US soil. And they they eject the Russian diplomats and impose sanctions as soon as Flynn is out of the country. Flynn gets the call from the Ambassador the same day, December 29, 2016. And voila.

So, check out this testimony by McCabe in his interview of December 19, 2017 where he discusses how they got the transcript:

Redacted? Redacted? In McCabe's testimony, who was "tasking from [REDACTED]" referring to?

Was that Loretta Lynch at the direction of Barack Obama?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bagpipesbarr; bongino; coup; danbongino; deepstate; fisa; flynn; nocharges; obamagate; obamaknew; spygate; trustbarr; trusttheplan
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I didn't see this posted anywhere, and Bongino was all over it today.

Folks, this seems to me the only thing that fits. This is a lot to follow, but we aren't likely to get a Perry Mason-like confession from these people. They are tripping up, and one of these trips is going to get them.

Thoughts on this?

1 posted on 05/15/2020 8:11:11 PM PDT by rlmorel
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To: rlmorel
By the way, that Epoch Times article is behind a paywall, but you can get around it by going to a website like Outline.com

The link to the article is: https://www.theepochtimes.com/flynns-name-never-masked-in-call-transcripts-briefed-to-obama-records-indicate_3350021.html

2 posted on 05/15/2020 8:15:57 PM PDT by rlmorel (The Coronavirus itself will not burn down humanity. But we may burn ourselves down to be rid of it.)
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To: rlmorel

I listened to his show today and think he is spot on!!!


3 posted on 05/15/2020 8:20:02 PM PDT by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: Fedora

ping


4 posted on 05/15/2020 8:21:26 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: rlmorel
Obama Did It.

I knew that several years ago. 85% of government employees are Democrat, and of course that snake appointed a bunch of his toady rotten apples into positions that it is hard to get them out of.

Obama just made corrupt Washington more corrupt and more arrogant.

5 posted on 05/15/2020 8:21:45 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yeah, a lot of us assumed that, but getting proof was a challenge. I think it is coming apart for them.


6 posted on 05/15/2020 8:22:52 PM PDT by rlmorel (The Coronavirus itself will not burn down humanity. But we may burn ourselves down to be rid of it.)
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To: rlmorel

I thought Dan made a reasonable case today, but even if this case is proven most of American will either not understand what happened or even care.

In the age of Google, Facebook, and other tech giants it seems like much of the country has no problem with being monitored by others for any purpose.


7 posted on 05/15/2020 8:23:36 PM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: rlmorel; LS; Liz; SunkenCiv; MHGinTN

Sobering. It fits the “memo to nowhere” on the morning Trump was inaugurated that “We followed the book.”


8 posted on 05/15/2020 8:24:48 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but ABCNNBCBS donates every hour, every night, every day of the year.)
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To: CaptainK

Yes...I am surprised there aren’t more pings to his content on here. He is a bit repetitive, but I am in favor of that because otherwise, it is difficult to follow sometimes.

I really like listening to him. Mark Levin is pretty spot on as well, but I have a hard time listening to him because I am already angry about a lot of those subjects, and his anger nearly brings my blood pressure right up there with him.

Dan can be pretty funny sometimes...:)


9 posted on 05/15/2020 8:25:41 PM PDT by rlmorel (The Coronavirus itself will not burn down humanity. But we may burn ourselves down to be rid of it.)
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To: volunbeer

Dan did make a mistake today that was important. If I heard him correctly and I listen while driving to and from work in between phone calls, he said Strozk failed to close the case.

That was not true. It was a Washington Field Office and not the 7th floor that had the open CI case against Flynn. They had determined that there was no crime and they were going to close the case. Strozk found out the case against Flynn was still open and had not yet been closed and he directed the supervisor there to NOT close the case and later texted that the “7th floor was involved.”

I think that is worse than if the 7th floor had an open case and as Dan says, “precision matters”.


10 posted on 05/15/2020 8:28:26 PM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: volunbeer

I will say, I am willing to give up a cell phone if this new 6666 bill passes.

But I get your point.

That said, we have to try. If this doesn’t go anywhere, and people don’t get punished, our country is sunk. It may be sunk anyway at least for the rest of my life, however long that turns out to be if more of the coronavirus bills pass.


11 posted on 05/15/2020 8:28:48 PM PDT by rlmorel (The Coronavirus itself will not burn down humanity. But we may burn ourselves down to be rid of it.)
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To: rlmorel
I've been saying this since 2008: Obama was in it up to his ears over the Rod Blagojevich Senate seat scandal. Blagojevich became the fall guy to protect the incoming Obama.

Everything Obama has done in his eight years as President belies the notion that he had no involvement with Blago over the Senate seat controversy that sent the governor to prison and destroyed the Jesse Jackson family.

Patrick Fitzgerald was called in to cover up for Obama before he took office, and Robert Mueller was called in to cover up for Obama after he left office.

-PJ

12 posted on 05/15/2020 8:29:03 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: rlmorel

Just finished listening to today’s Bongino Podcast.
Unreal. YOU MUST listen.
I cannot not explain the details, as I am not as gifted as others in
explaining things.
I will say that Bongino makes a compelling case that Obama ordered
the hit on Flynn. And I don’t mean Obama just knew about it, BUT
ORDERED the hit.
If you listen and after you listen it might explain why Emmet Sullivan
has been railroading Flynn, especially with his last illegal ruling.
It also might explain why Brennan made that strange tweet about
hoping Chris Wray, FBI Director “stays strong”. Which I believe is a hidden
message to Wray.
You must listen to Bongino’s show today.
And thanks for posting this thread. I think the doors are about to bust open.


13 posted on 05/15/2020 8:30:12 PM PDT by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: rlmorel

14 posted on 05/15/2020 8:31:15 PM PDT by spokeshave
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To: rlmorel

I agree 100%. I have been very surprised that more people are not upset with the massive surveillance state we have allowed to gain power without impediment.

Then I think of how much of our privacy we all surrender by plugging into the internet and using big tech software and search engines. I think people know this and most just shrug.

This is/was Watergate x 1000. I think we have no clue or idea just how bad it was and we may never know.


15 posted on 05/15/2020 8:33:07 PM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: rlmorel
I hope to God we see perp walks and prison sentences. This is the most serious threat to our system of government since the Civil War.
16 posted on 05/15/2020 8:33:34 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: rlmorel

Dan does a good job by & large.


17 posted on 05/15/2020 8:33:52 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: volunbeer

I didn’t catch that, but I don’t really see that as all that bad. I believe Bongino speaks extemporaneously, and I know he gets a lot of tiny details wrong, most of the time he seems to catch himself before it gets set in cement!

But I do believe he gets the larger points right. There is a LOT of information he puts out. And he backs it up.

And he did say “This hasn’t been proven”.

But I will say...it sure fits better than anything else I have heard. It has been a bit of a puzzle to me when that unmasking list came out, because that occurred to me right away-that there was no unmasking request between 12/29 (The Call) and 1/4 (The day before the meeting where Strzok called off the dogs who were going to close out the case)


18 posted on 05/15/2020 8:33:54 PM PDT by rlmorel (The Coronavirus itself will not burn down humanity. But we may burn ourselves down to be rid of it.)
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To: spokeshave

Heh...exactly! I remember watching that show...

I will say-I have been willing to be patient in how all this unfolds. Probably most people don’t remember, but I remember back in 1972-1974 when the whole Watergate thing was going down.

It didn’t just happen. There was a steady, constant for two years, drip-drip-drip of the thing going on, then near the end it really started to take off.

But this is taking far longer than I thought it would to see SOMEONE take a hit on it.


19 posted on 05/15/2020 8:37:07 PM PDT by rlmorel (The Coronavirus itself will not burn down humanity. But we may burn ourselves down to be rid of it.)
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To: rlmorel
The President can direct Surveillance to take place without a FISA court involvement.

So Obama did it...but it's legal?

20 posted on 05/15/2020 8:38:24 PM PDT by FreeReign
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