Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

What the Discussion Over the Ahmaud Arbery Shooting Should Actually Be Focused On
Townhall.com ^ | May 12, 2020 | Scott Morefield

Posted on 05/12/2020 4:21:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-124 next last
To: Levy78

Heheh. A grammatical tranny.


21 posted on 05/12/2020 5:15:13 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
At this point I'm strongly inclined to believe that we'll never get to a point where enough *facts* are known about this case where a reasonable person of *any* color can reach a firm opinion regarding culpability...that is,whether the two white guys were just redneck thugs who decided to take out an ordinary black guy or whether the dead guy was some kind of latter day Trayvon or “Gentle Giant”.
22 posted on 05/12/2020 5:21:49 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: McGruff

Had the dead guy ever been arrested? If so,I didn’t know that.Is that photo on the right real or is it just photoshopped?


23 posted on 05/12/2020 5:23:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Sacajaweau; Sir_Humphrey
Well, we can't know his thoughts, but maybe he thought he was about to die and the only slim chance he saw was to fight - starting with disarming Junior with the shotgun, then dealing with Daddy with the revolver.

That plan didn't work out for him, obviously. According to details that I've read - I could be mistaken about this but this is what I've read here at FR on the threads on this subject - he lost his hand to the shotgun while he was grappling around with Junior and then Daddy shot him twice with his .357, then afterwards rolled his dead body over to check him for weapons.

Why shoot him with a .357, twice, if he's already had his hand blown off by a shotgun?

Again, this is just my understanding from what I've read here. Could be incorrect, or not.

24 posted on 05/12/2020 5:24:39 AM PDT by OKSooner (Don't buy from China. Don't buy from Microsoft. Don't do Facebook. Tweet only enough to get banned.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

If we learned anything from the shootings of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, it should be avoiding a rush to judgment. We can’t convict people based on a 90 second news story being presented by a biased media with an obsessive political agenda. Justice must involve a cautious, deliberative process that has proved it is capable of ferreting out the truth. If it’s permitted to do so.


25 posted on 05/12/2020 5:28:29 AM PDT by Spok
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Final sentence is not true (as well as almost being unreadable):

‘But ironically, decades-removed from an era when alleged black offenders would rarely get a fair trial, the McMichaels’ chances, no matter what the facts turn out to be, of any outcome short of life without parole or even the death penalty in this highly politicized and racially charged case is next to nil.’

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Based on previous cases, it’s very likely that they will get a fair trial. George Zimmerman was acquited and Darren Wilson, the cop who shoot Michael Brown, was not even indicted.


26 posted on 05/12/2020 5:39:15 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gay State Conservative
Oh, I think it's reasonable to believe that the dead guy was not an upstanding citizen at all, and likely was up to no good at the time. He was the kind of guy who dressed up nice for his Senior Picture, but that was just a picture.

I'm willing to believe he was a delinquent sort of character who once carried a weapon into basketball games while underage, and who possibly was involved in a rash of burglaries. Unfortunately we'll never get the answer to the latter now that he's dead, nor will he have the opportunity to pay his debt to society, get a real job and make a decent citizen of himself.

We get to have all the opinions we want about all parties in the situation. We just don't have the right or the authority to DO anything about our opinions, like for instance chase someone down in a pickup and aggressively confront them with drawn weapons, especially, by Georgia law, if we didn't PERSONALLY know of them do something illegal. That would cross a legal line and get us sent to jail in Georgia.

In my state, just the act of chasing after someone and pulling a gun on them, for any reason, would constitute aggravated assault and make you culpable if anyone got hurt or killed.

27 posted on 05/12/2020 5:39:50 AM PDT by OKSooner (Don't buy from China. Don't buy from Microsoft. Don't do Facebook. Tweet only enough to get banned.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Gay State Conservative

When he was in high school, Arbery was sentenced to five years probation as a first offender on charges of carrying a weapon on campus and several counts of obstructing a law enforcement officer. He was convicted of probation violation in 2018 after he was charged with shoplifting, court documents show.

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/brunswick-attorney-released-the-video-arbery-shooting/JkpbvTuJt9wfl3tkcLTTvO/


28 posted on 05/12/2020 5:40:40 AM PDT by McGruff (They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Altura Ct.
Elkton couple, 85 and 86, fatally shot at Delaware cemetery; suspect dead

I'm pretty sure Arbery didn't do that.

29 posted on 05/12/2020 5:41:33 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

VERY IMPORTANT. BRAND NEW VIDEO SHOWING AHMAUD ARBERY:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t02B6VTj2U


30 posted on 05/12/2020 5:45:26 AM PDT by bort
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Josa

“Video shows him roaming the house under construction at night.”

Have you personally seen the video? If so, then please provide a link.


31 posted on 05/12/2020 5:46:07 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Fishtalk
A black guy kills an 85/86 year old couple at a cemetery and we don’t hear a word.

How many do you want.

Link

32 posted on 05/12/2020 5:49:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Labyrinthos

The Gateway Pundit published still photos from the homeowner’s security camera video that clearly show Arbery in the house at night in October. It should be noted that the homeowner’s across the street neighbor was called 911 on the date of the shooting and referenced “multiple” burglaries at that property. BTW, Arbery is wearing the same CLOTHING in the October video that he is wearing when he got shot.


33 posted on 05/12/2020 5:53:54 AM PDT by bort
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Fishtalk
As for this guy....why would someone try to wrest a shotgun from someone? Why wouldn’t he put up his arms or some such but no, he wanted the loaded shotgun. Neither of these stories make much sense.

If I am jogging down the street and two fat rednecks in a pickup truck chase me down and confront me with a shotgun. I am thinking, "If I run they will shoot me in the back and kill me; if I put my hands up and surrender, they will shoot me in the chest and kill me; but if I fight back, then I might survive the situation."

34 posted on 05/12/2020 5:56:37 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
At this point, the spin and story-telling had taken hold so deeply that it doesn't seem likely that this will be discussed in a fair and rational manner. When it goes to trial, the facts will be laid out by the prosecutor and the defense will have an opportunity to challenge the evidence, and present their own case.

Based on what has been shown as evidence so far (the videos, the police report, and the DA's statement), and ignoring the spin, it looks to me that the defense will have the better case at showing reasonable doubt that a murder occurred than the prosecution will have proving beyond a reasonable doubt that a murder occurred.

35 posted on 05/12/2020 5:58:40 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleDawg

Thank you for the link.

I detect a hint of sarcasm in your reply.

I read all of the articles at your link. I already knew all of it. The elderly couples’ names, their son’s name, when they died, the name of the shooter, the fact that somehow the shooter ended up dead.

What I’d like to know is WHY did this guy shoot those two people? When and how did the state police get involved? They don’t know whether the guy died by his own gun or a police gun?

Yeah, I’d like these questions answered.

Because did this guy shoot these poor people because they were white?

Those are the words I’d like to see since the shots were fired and I could hear the damn things.


36 posted on 05/12/2020 5:58:43 AM PDT by Fishtalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Labyrinthos

Hmmmm.

Well I ain’t buying it.

Your mileage may vary.


37 posted on 05/12/2020 6:00:15 AM PDT by Fishtalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Armscor38

Was it Trespassing or was it Burglary?

If you walk across my property I would consider that Trespassing. Misdemeanor here in Texas unless that person has a firearm, then it’s turned into a felony.

Walk across my property and go into one of my buildings and I’m calling it burglary. Felony here in Texas and GA.

Not directed at you but others here have made the comment about walking into construction sites and looking at the work being done. Why some people think it’s not just acceptable but common for people to trespass on another’s property is beyond me. I’m pretty protective of my property.


38 posted on 05/12/2020 6:01:08 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
While plenty of people on both sides rightly called for justice for Ahmaud Arbery ...

The fool got justice, and quickly too. Charging a man with a shotgun is usually a fatal mistake.

39 posted on 05/12/2020 6:04:06 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OKSooner

We get to have all the opinions we want about all parties in the situation. We just don’t have the right or the authority to DO anything about our opinions, like for instance chase someone down in a pickup and aggressively confront them with drawn weapons, especially, by Georgia law, if we didn’t PERSONALLY know of them do something illegal. That would cross a legal line and get us sent to jail in Georgia.
____________________________________________________
1) The defendants did NOT chase the suspect. The suspect ran down a dead-end peninsula. They parked the truck and “cut him off at the pass” because they knew that was the only way out of their neighborhood.
2) You don’t have to have DNA evidence and sworn affidavits to effectuate a citizens arrest. You need PROBABLE CAUSE to believe ANY crime has been committed in your “presence” or “within your immediate knowledge.” In other words, you don’t have to see the crime to have probable cause.
3) In this case, the father personally saw the suspect sprinting from the house. He was also aware that this SAME SUSPECT had burgled the house before and was a suspect in multiple thefts in the neighborhood. The very fact that the suspect is SPRINTING full speed from a house that he previously burgled is more than enough PC to effectuate an arrest.
4) The father did not draw a gun until after the suspect was trying to disarm and kill his son.
50 The only reason the son grabbed a shotgun is because Arbery had STOLEN his handgun out of his truck 3 weeks before this incident. BTW, it is perfectly legal to hold a shotgun in a public space in Georgia.


40 posted on 05/12/2020 6:04:17 AM PDT by bort
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-124 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson