Posted on 04/30/2020 12:00:21 AM PDT by L.A.Justice
Totally agree
Is “Millions of cases, a small number of deaths” crap statistics? Because that seems to be their main point, other than the pumped up COVID medical coding and arguments for herd immunity.
‘I don’t see how to reconcile with some who will say “which loved one do you want to die...
you don’t have to go far to have that ‘discussion’...just tune into this very forum and have at it with the scaredy cat contingent...
Define “elective surgeries”.
I have a friend in SF who is dating a cancer surgeon. She’s not able to do any surgeries.
Have you watched the full video of these ER docs? There are plenty of societal costs of SIP, which they point out. Fauci and Birx sure aren’t doing this. There should be robust political debate happening over the points these guys make. Instead there is censorship by a media megacorporation.
‘Instead there is censorship by a media megacorporation.’
there is also an inordinate amount of moral suasion being employed by a large population of shame mongers, which is every bit as intimidating as outright censorship...we go into social media thinking we are adults capable of having intensified debate, and we find out exactly the opposite holds true...
Not surprising, given that the Left has been shutting down debate over policy issues for, well, forever.
Seems like what you’re debunking isn’t one of their main points. They’re only using that incomplete data to debunk the IHME doom models that are STILL in vogue by elites. Quote from their transcript:
“In New York the ones they tested they found 39% positive. So if they tested the whole state would we indeed have 7.5 million cases? We don’t know; we will never test the entire state. So we extrapolate out; we use the data we have because it’s the most we have versus a predictive model that has been nowhere in the ballpark of accurate.”
Granted populations are different, but statistics don’t prove or disprove anything. It is about probability that the major premise is probable or not to a degree of significance. I would ask that you apply the same degree of skepticism to the media’s speculations.
...full on censorship is their resort
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And the response needs to be full on civil disobediance. Overwhelm them.
I noticed yesterday, on a viral video of a home visit triggered by a mother allowing playdates, the cops in question were not wearing masks. That’s a strong clue as to what is actually going down.
Force a citation that is not backed by law, but only a simple health order issued by officials lacking any clinical medical expertise. Then, if the courts ever resume functioning, sue for violation of Constitutional rights.
In the meantime, bring these egregious actions to the attention of the US Attorney for this state.
Fun fact: it seems children do not have mature ACE2 receptors in numbers large enough for severe infection. Switzerland discovered children are not vectors and has lifted the ban on contact with grandparents.
At some point in the very near future, a lot of petty tyrants and facilitators of needless anxiety caused by fear-mongering are going to be backpedaling their guilt-trips. Stress is physically, psychologically, and socially destructive.
I am pleased to see masses of Americans still exist and are capable of rational conclusions while taking action in defense of their liberty.
...staying locked in the house without being exposed to anything will actually weaken the immune system?
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What about rebreathing moist exhalations that contain microbes existing within each human respiratory tract? What about constant use of occlusive gloves, which cause skin tissue to swell and become more porous, combined with excessive handwashing and application of drying agents weakening the first line outpost of the immune system? How many climate control systems have sanitizing features?
I also watched the video carefully. The clinicians were believable and amazed that the media only wanted to frame questions in the context of “How do you justify disagreeing with Dr. Fauci.” They countered that well, to little avail.
The scary part is:
It has been happening all along.
Dubious, dubious I tell you
Give them a number. When someone asks me, how many people dying are acceptable to you? I say compared to destroying America like we are, about 22.45 million or some such large arbitrary number. Shuts them right up.
Believe me, I do apply the same degree of skepticism to the media’s speculations. As I said, I don’t favor censoring these guys. They are being treated unfairly. YouTube’s policies are arbitrary, unfair and disturbing. At the same time, I’m not going to pretend that the Bakersfield doctors were on there promoting impeccable facts and flawless logic. They weren’t. It was mostly crap, but, yes, there’s a lot of crap being spun and repeated daily by the likes of the Cuomos, CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS/WaPo/NYT, etc., and it’s promoted, not censored, so these guys shouldn’t be censored either.
F YouBoob.....
Alternative sources are your friend.
It’s very obvious a reckoning is coming.
The question becomes what devastation is accompanying it...the Left is all in, they are making their play for totalitarianism. It could get bloody.
Yes, they dared to claim the main threat to the current “official” “medical” position. THEY are not ivory tower academics sitting at desks and running theoretical models. They are very experienced and currently practicing doctors looking at the facts, the realities of what they are seeing.
Yes, they make conclusions based on that reality, not theoretical models. THAT is their “crime”. Their reality obviously does support their positions, but since it does not match the theoretical positions of ivory tower saints, like Fauci, their positions are called “dubious”.
The powers that be that are looking to make this their play for permanent rule - I call them the Left because they are leftist, but they are more than that - either set this up very well or took great advantage of it when it appeared. We are boxed in and hamstrung by ourselves and our lack of understanding of even the very nature of life. We are as a whole trying to preserve our lifestyle as opposed to trying to achieve. We got fat and happy in our slow trek to socialist slumber. And now it seems that not enough of us know what to do to make the country dynamic, as it once was.
We have gotten very soft and prime territory for the totalitarians to swoop in. We don’t really know if there are enough of us to see through it all and realize that a nation that is not striving, that is afraid, that just wants to stay where it is and preserve its wealth is just an empty shell waiting to be pushed over by a more determined, grounded, enemy.
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