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EXCLUSIVE: 'It's a horror movie.' Nurse working on coronavirus frontline in New York claims the city is 'murdering' COVID-19 patients
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Posted on 04/28/2020 2:57:00 AM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: proud American in Canada
Katrina brought out the looters

That particular demographic is always looting. The hurricane didn't change that. Those people invent events that give them an excuse to smash and grab.

What Katrina did expose, however, were cops who liked to use people as target practice. Cops who went door to door confiscating privately owned firearms so they could enrich their personal gun collections.

We learned that, in natural disasters, those who are supposed to serve and protect become our worst enemies.

41 posted on 04/28/2020 4:51:07 AM PDT by LouAvul (Put them in fear, O Lord: that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Psalms 9:20)
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To: TigerClaws

Ventilators are highly technical machines. There are multiple settings and these setting must be adjusted for the changing condition of the patient.

They are not simple “plug and play” devices which is why most hospitals have a separate department (Respiratory Therapy) staffed by licensed technicians.

I don’t know if these stories are true, I do know if not used properly ventilators can do more harm then good.

(In my younger days I was a Respiratory Therapist but left the field to go into one that paid more)


42 posted on 04/28/2020 5:01:43 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: HighSierra5

“Once an elderly person is intubated it’s over.”

This (not your statement) doesn’t make sense. First everyone was screaming for ventilators. Now we hear how bad they are.

Could a doctor explain the proper use of a ventilator?


43 posted on 04/28/2020 5:02:47 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: PlateOfShrimp

absolutely. This reminds me of the social media posts a month or so “my friend has a friend who works for a trucking company, and they got an email saying blah, blah, blah....”. Total BS.


44 posted on 04/28/2020 5:02:54 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: cymbeline

It varies as to why they were I fubared and also other medical conditions.


45 posted on 04/28/2020 5:03:57 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: Tax-chick

It is not true at all. This is more attention whoring with incorrect facts. Vent mortality is NOT 80% snd with all due respect an ER nurse simply doesn’t have the training to decide who should be vented and who should not. A plagiarism of the latest BS to be circulating and an attempt to further generate fear


46 posted on 04/28/2020 5:04:54 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr
Thank you for the observations. Although I lack the medical knowledge to evaluate most reports on the details, I have the sociological knowledge to treat scads and lashings of Exclusive! Shocking! You Won't Believe ...! A Doctor Slams! reports as "non-information."
47 posted on 04/28/2020 5:07:35 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Make an animal friend today!)
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To: cymbeline

Yes I can explain the proper use of a ventilator.

The human respiratory system has two components
1. Oxygenation (getting oxygen to the organs)
2. Ventilation (getting rid of carbon dioxide the exhaust of respiration)

Ventilators are used to assist one or both of the above. You can have hypoxic, hypercarbic or both forms of respiratory failure

There are a whole bunch of variable to set on a vent
1. Mode (how much the patient is responsible for breathing)
2. Rate (breaths per minute)
3. Tidal volume (volume of each breath)
4. Oxygen concentration (fraction of oxygen given)
5. pEEP (pressure at the end of breathing cycles)
6. Flow rate (maximum amount of liters per minute during inspiration)

The parameters for putting someone on a vent are complex. It why in order to be a doc who runs a vent you have a minimum of five years post doctoral training

We make vent changes while protecting the lung by analyzing arterial blood gasses. We know what’s safe for the lung in terms of pressures and oxygen mix

Sometimes you have to make tough calls as to what is ok and what is not to provide appropriate oxygen to the organs

Vent mortality is not anywhere near 80%
Even in CoVId


48 posted on 04/28/2020 5:15:08 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: TigerClaws

I raised this concern on April 19

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3836708/posts


49 posted on 04/28/2020 5:25:00 AM PDT by motoman (")
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To: TigerClaws

There is more to her demise that is being reported.

I’m reminded of all the medics and trauma surgeons that in the heat of battle have seen more carnage than this lady could have ever imagined. Ultimately, she let humanity down.


50 posted on 04/28/2020 5:28:46 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Bump


51 posted on 04/28/2020 5:29:46 AM PDT by silverleaf (President Trump: Do not trust China. China is asshoe!)
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To: CodeJockey

Posted in wrong thread. There is one where a front line nurse commits suicide, supposedly because it’s to traumatic for her.


52 posted on 04/28/2020 5:31:59 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: TigerClaws

and knowing that the US taxpayers are paying all costs related to the caronavirus pandemic, I am confident the hospitals are jacking up expenses on each patient to the max.


53 posted on 04/28/2020 5:38:57 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: TigerClaws

However, anecdotal accounts must be dismissed (such as attest to hydroxychloroquine efficacy) unless they provide fodder for the hysteriavirus/blameTrump news cycle (as with negative anecdotal stories about hydroxychloroquine).


54 posted on 04/28/2020 6:00:51 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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Vent mortality is not anywhere near 80%

Thanks, and I would think that the worse position would be laying down, face up. Inside.

55 posted on 04/28/2020 6:03:45 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: TigerClaws
'It's a horror movie,' she said through a friend.

again, unnamed sources providing fuel to the fire with no real references. If it's true, be a whistleblower and say so. Don't start these unnames sources whisper campaigns with no evidence. Sounds too much like these unnames whistleblowers that level undocumented accusations against Trump through MSM's that are unwilling to name their sources.

I get so PO'd that I can't believe anything I hear anymore because there is no evidence presented....

56 posted on 04/28/2020 6:53:13 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Oh boy!)
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To: PlateOfShrimp

While the source is unreliable, the statistics of 400% higher death rate in NYC combined with the no HCQ mandate and Nursing Home fiasco does indicate a pattern.

It seems to indicate Medicare fraud by murder for cash is a Democrat pattern. NEVER let Government practice medicine.


57 posted on 04/28/2020 7:09:56 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: gas_dr

“Vent mortality is not anywhere near 80%”

Thanks for the informative post. Ventilators are indeed complex devices. Wow! Five years of post-doctoral training!


58 posted on 04/28/2020 7:11:36 AM PDT by cymbeline
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