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Stockholm Expected To Reach Herd Immunity In May, Swedish Ambassador to U.S. Says
NPR ^ | 04/26/2020 | H.J. Mai

Posted on 04/26/2020 6:05:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Okeydoker

#17. Interesting to see what the death ratio is between blond, white Swedes in general (and the elderly in particular) versus those among their Moslem population, esp. in Malmo.


41 posted on 04/26/2020 8:45:04 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: DoughtyOne

We can try to compare apples to apples. The much touted scary sounding “case fatality rate” is not consistently defined country by country. So to use it as a basis of comparison is misleading.


42 posted on 04/26/2020 8:45:58 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

On stop it.

Just what do you plan to use if you’re going to ignore
everything provided?

Let’s just not talk about it since nothing can be used
as a marker for comparison.


43 posted on 04/26/2020 8:47:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

The mass-hysteria they have hyped over this has been breathtaking; when this is all said and done, there will be a white light of scrutiny on the use of models, Fauci, China, the media.

People don’t want a damned thing from China these days, and if there is ANY silver lining to be had, the airlines are talking of getting rid of the middle seat!

Open this country up now!


44 posted on 04/26/2020 8:48:44 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Instead, let’s make misleading comparisons using data that has not been defined, scrutinized, or examined for accuracy.

Take it to the Climate Change crowd.


45 posted on 04/26/2020 8:54:32 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm beginning to think this whole "Sweden has the answer" saga is a bunch of hoey.

Sweden's Deputy Prime Minister Isabella Lövin: 'The biggest myth about Sweden is that life is going on as normal'

46 posted on 04/26/2020 9:00:19 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: SeekAndFind

Coronavirus can infect animals, so there can be non-human reservoirs of disease. Although it can somewhat burn out in the human population, I wouldn’t expect it to ever completely vanish. Ultimately it seems to me that we need to achieve herd immunity in order to calm the contagion. Now that we know more about the virus and potential treatments, continuing the lockdowns sacrifices our economies without eliminating the virus. Fortunately, it isn’t the plague. Sweden will provide us with important data, and hopefully an injection of sanity.


47 posted on 04/26/2020 9:05:20 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: FreedomNotSafety

You beat me to it Ace.

Please provide your sources that explain how Spain, Germany,
France, and Italy count their dead differently than Sweden.

Thank in advance Pumpkin.


48 posted on 04/26/2020 9:06:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: DoodleBob

I don’t think it has been.

They have done certain things that help to protect vulnerable
groups. They also work from home when they can.

There is not the total shutdown that it’s neighbors have
instituted.

She pretty much confirms what I was led to believe.

Sweden has not locked down their nation to the degree,
Spain, France, Germany, and Italy have. And those
nations have a higher Death Per Million figure than
Sweden does.


49 posted on 04/26/2020 9:12:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Keep at it doughy one. You posted the garbage you defend it.


50 posted on 04/26/2020 9:22:05 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

So in other words, you’ve got nothing at all to back up
your nonsense.

Thanks for the confirmation.

I at lease posted something. You?

Well, you had an attitude and thought that counted for
something.


51 posted on 04/26/2020 9:24:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: DoughtyOne

When I post something I try to make sure it at least makes logical sense.

But in your honor, you can see my post of about one minute ago.


52 posted on 04/26/2020 9:32:29 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: M-cubed
I think I am a little more rugged than you so you sit in the truck with the women. I don't let others limit what I can do. I set my own limits and generally do more than some one 20 years younger than I. I feel sorry for those who have not challenged themselves and do not know what they are capable of.

I simple said I don't like that wording because it debases the value of people as a whole. If that offends you go live with the communist if you are happy with being equated to a animal. Me I value humans more than animals.

As for locking everyone up I feel it is a waste. Not everyone is in dire need of protection.

Not really sure what gave you the impression I was weak. You must not have very good judgment if that is the way it came off. Or you have low reading comprehension. In case you have not heard it before word matter.

53 posted on 04/26/2020 9:34:24 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: DoughtyOne
But Sweden isn't this mammoth success story. Yes, they haven't done some of the stupid stuff we've done. However, the article I posed points to some big problems on the horizon.

It may very well be that the appx. 10K extra size-adjusted fatalities Sweden registered was "worth it" when you compare the financial costs. But let's check out the financial costs Sweden is about to experience first, i.e.: "A lot of small businesses are on their knees because production is down or has decreased a lot. It is not business as usual in Sweden but the opposite, things are very, very tough."

54 posted on 04/26/2020 9:48:32 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

If that was your idea of logical sense, you and I have two
different views on what makes logical sense.

FAIL!


55 posted on 04/26/2020 9:53:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: DoodleBob

Are they less tough than here?

There are close to 30 million people out of work now.

Is there a down side to that? Are their families expendable?

Is their life savings expendable. Are people’s fortunes
wrapped up in their businesses, expendable?

I’m not saying Sweden is the model we should all switch to.

I’ve addressed the pros and cons. I’m just not convinced
that months more of sheltering in place is going to lead
to a better future for anyone.


56 posted on 04/26/2020 9:58:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: DoodleBob

Swedish “herd immunity” is a joke—not happening in 2020.

The real infection rate is probably under 5% at this point, and most Swedes are practicing social distancing and common sense.


57 posted on 04/26/2020 10:02:34 PM PDT by cgbg (New poll: post elderly voters like Biden's experience as Wilson's VP fighting the Spanish Flu.)
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To: norcal joe
I'm sure we'll be hearing lots more about how Sweden is unlike the US (just like any country in the world is unlike every other) just to try to keep the "must lock-down for your own good" narrative alive.

Drs. Fauci and Birx already said this weeks ago during one of the daily White House COVID-19 Task Force press briefings.

58 posted on 04/26/2020 10:08:03 PM PDT by nutmeg (Mega prayers for Rush Limbaugh)
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To: DoughtyOne
I agree. While the data in NY, NJ, CT, MA, MI and LA are not promising, there are other stats that should open up asap. Even in NY they should open up Upstate, with extra precautions for the elderly and those with preexisting conditions.

The 50k+ dead in the US from COVID19 may pale in comparison to those who commit suicide out of financial despair. If we've won the war, let's not lose the peace.

59 posted on 04/26/2020 10:30:15 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob

Thanks DoodleBob. I agree with your take there.


60 posted on 04/26/2020 10:38:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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