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Remains of 90-million-year-old rainforest found near South Pole
UPI ^ | April 1, 2020 | By Brooks Hays

Posted on 04/01/2020 9:48:52 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Elsie; teppe

Thanks for posting!

Hey, why does someone who claims to have the “restoration of the church” and “fullness of the gospel” have trembling fear about answering a simple question??

Of course I refer to FReeper teppe, who won’t answer whether Smith was right or wrong about 6’ Quakers living 1,000 year lifespans on the moon. This is very specific. Smith claimed as a seer, he knew this.

He was either telling the truth or a falsehood,

Why not state what you believe teppe ??????

Is it too frightening? Too embarrassing? Too confusing?

Or...?


201 posted on 04/05/2020 6:28:21 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Professor Robert Millet        
 
 
2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."

202 posted on 04/05/2020 6:33:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“You’ve got to be taught,
before it’s too late;
before you are six,
or seven or eight...”


203 posted on 04/05/2020 6:33:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
How about a good Mormon Limerick? 👍😁
204 posted on 04/05/2020 6:38:20 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer in pilot training. Flew the DA-20 and T-6. One more aircraft to go.)
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To: Mark17

It’s getting late Sunday evening here. I’m pooped.

It’s early Monday at your house; start us one.

I’ll chime in tomorrow.

Lord willing.


205 posted on 04/05/2020 6:41:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; aMorePerfectUnion; MHGinTN; Roman_War_Criminal
There once was a Mormon that we all know
Who claims his false religion is white as snow
It’s fake for sure
They try to lure
The lost, so they experience an eternity of woe.
206 posted on 04/05/2020 6:53:34 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer in pilot training. Flew the DA-20 and T-6. One more aircraft to go.)
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To: Elsie
It’s actually 10 am on Monday here. 😁
207 posted on 04/05/2020 6:54:26 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer in pilot training. Flew the DA-20 and T-6. One more aircraft to go.)
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To: Mark17

Truth!


208 posted on 04/05/2020 7:00:25 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mark17

Ol Elsie has risen from bed
with more hair gone missing from head.
While his goats chew their cuds,
He will chat with his buds,
While trying to convince those misled.


209 posted on 04/06/2020 4:28:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

aMorePerfectUnion,

I’m sorry .... were you trying to say something coherent that didn’t start with ... “Dude...” and end with vile insults?

I really don’t have any respect for anyone who trashes other peoples belief in Christ ....

...and have completely ZERO ability to provide scriptural back up for their own beliefs.

I believe that Christ called people like you ‘Hypocrite’ ... and didn’t want us to cast our pearls before swine.

If Joseph Smith once blew his nose, or said that he had a stomach ache or was wrong about the weather, or jokingly or not spoke off the cuff, not to mention the 10-thousands of people who would misquote him, you would claim that it was solid ‘proof’ of some whacky logic you parade as intelligent.

I have no Idea what your talking about .... but since the Spirit of God and truth is not in you .... you’ve got nothing .... your a completely empty font.

Talking about religious belief to you .... is like trying to teach Calculus to Beavis and Butthead.

You love to condemn believing Christians more righteous and just than you to hell at the drop of a hat .... I really feel sorry for you, I don’t think Christ likes your style.

Matt. 7. [1] Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.


210 posted on 04/06/2020 4:43:05 AM PDT by teppe
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie; MHGinTN

Once again, leave the Mormons to their own devices. I have never met one who was interested in the truth, though maybe a few are, but no one here is. Leave them. Shake the dust from your feet as a testimony against them. Remember 1Corinthians 2:14. They are not capable of understanding the truth. I meet people all the time, who are willing to listen, but none of them are Mormons.


211 posted on 04/06/2020 5:07:53 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer in pilot training. Flew the DA-20 and T-6. One more aircraft to go.)
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To: Elsie
While trying to convince those misled.

Who might those be? 😁

212 posted on 04/06/2020 5:09:52 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer in pilot training. Flew the DA-20 and T-6. One more aircraft to go.)
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To: MHGinTN; aMorePerfectUnion; Mark17; Elsie

MHGinTN

Actually ... you have not provided one Iota of evidence that Mary was a surrogate. Your only motivation to assume this is your attempt to twist the scriptures to conform to the ‘Homoousis’ requirement of +4th Century Creeds/Doctrine of the Trinity.

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus (1 Tim 2:5)

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. (1 Cor 15:21-28)

Your interpretation would negate these as well as another dozen similar scriptures because Christ would have no relationship to Adam.

*************************************

As for John 4:24 God is many things, God is knowledge, God is truth, God is light, God is justice, God is Spirit .........

I notice you didn’t address my other scriptural quotes/reasoning regarding God having a body.

You need to look at the broader scriptural evidence rather than base your whole Christology on one out of context scripture.

And your wrong, we do have permission from God to break away from the ‘Homoousis’ confines of a 4th Century Roman Emperor and consider other interpretations (you Creed/Trinity guys can’t execute us for that anymore!).

********************************

Most of all you didn’t respond to my ascertion that God lived before he created the Word in the “Beginning” .... but we probably had a few too many issues in a single post.

************************

MHGinTN,

I would like to thank you for discussing scriptural disagreements. It’s not often that I get intelligent thought from you guys, and I admire your education/intelligence and sincere belief in Christ.

But alas .... tomorrow I am leaving town for a week and will not have internet access. So possibly we could take this up another time.

Scriptures are at times ambiguous, and even if we disagree in interpretation, I think we could at least learn a little more about how the other side thinks.

Take care, and may God continue to bless you.


213 posted on 04/06/2020 5:10:51 AM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe
...and didn’t want us to cast our pearls before swine.

Here ya go!


https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp?lang=eng

214 posted on 04/06/2020 6:14:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
I really don’t have any respect for anyone who trashes other peoples belief in Christ ....

I guess the Spirit of APOSTACY is all over you!

But you merely echo what your leaders have said:



Questions put to Joseph Smith:
"'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119). 
Found in section 3 --> http://www.boap.org/LDS/Joseph-Smith/Teachings/T3.html  (search for 119)
 
 
"for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12).
Found here --->  LINK
 
"What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
Found in section 5 --> http://www.boap.org/LDS/Joseph-Smith/Teachings/T3.html  (search for 270)
 
 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly:
"When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses Section 5 page 73);
"The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses  Section  8 page 171);
"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses Section  8 page 199);
"Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses Section 10  page 230).
"And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses Section  6 page 24);
 

 
President John Taylor stated:
"Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , Section 6 page 167);
"Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , Section 10 page 127).
 

 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said:
"Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266).
"For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 

 
President George Q. Cannon said:
"After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).  <-- can't find an onlink link, but there ARE a lot of hard copy books for sale tha tinclude this quote.
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated:
"the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses Section 2, page 196).

215 posted on 04/06/2020 6:18:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
If Joseph Smith once blew his nose, or said that he had a stomach ache or was wrong about the weather, or jokingly or not spoke off the cuff, not to mention the 10-thousands of people who would misquote him, you would claim that it was solid ‘proof’ of some whacky logic you parade as intelligent.

But what about us folks who ACCURATELY quote him??

216 posted on 04/06/2020 6:20:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe

“ I really don’t have any respect for anyone who trashes other peoples belief

Nor I for those who pervert truth and lead people from Christ - not the fake Mormon one, but the Biblical Christ, Who was neither created nor made.

I Corinthians 11:12-15

“And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.

“For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.

“And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

“It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Apostle Paul


217 posted on 04/06/2020 6:21:57 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Elsie

“ While trying to convince those misled.

+1


218 posted on 04/06/2020 6:24:00 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: teppe
Matt. 7. [1] Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Typed a fella that typed up a whole lot of judgmental statements!



219 posted on 04/06/2020 6:26:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
 

You love to condemn believing Christians more righteous and just than you to hell at the drop of a hat .... I really feel sorry for you, I don’t think Christ likes your style.

 

IZZAT so??

 


Matthew 23:13-15, 27, 33
 
 
 13.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 
 14.  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 
 15.   "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 
 
 27.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.

 
 33.  "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
 

220 posted on 04/06/2020 6:33:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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