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The Fake Outrage at Rep. Thomas Massie is Outrageous
Townhall.com ^ | March 28, 2020 | Brian Darling

Posted on 03/28/2020 6:06:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

During the debate on the $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus bill, one of the most consequential pieces of legislation in contemporary history, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) did something appalling.

With the agreement of both Republicans and Democrats in House leadership, the Speaker blocked a recorded vote on the bill. It is an old leadership trick to protect members from controversial votes by not forcing them to take a position.

In retrospect, this is going to be one of the most important votes the sitting members of Congress will ever take, yet they came up with excuses not to have to cast a recorded vote. History seems to be repeating itself. When the House was forced back in 2008 to vote on the Troubled Assets Relief Program (TARP), that vote inspired a rebellion and the creation of Tea Party.

Although the coronavirus economic disruption was caused by government, not bad private-sector mortgage loans, Congress took great liberties to load up this bill with pet projects and inflated appropriations. While every cultural center in America has suffered from the coronavirus economic mess, the Washington, D.C. based Kennedy Center was given a special $25 million bailout, as were the National Endowment for the Arts and other projects that have strong support of congressional insiders.

This is not how Congress is supposed to work. Representatives are actually paid to draft up and vote on legislation without self-dealing. For all the faults of the Senate, they took a recorded vote on the legislation and did their job.

The cancel culture of our day has extended to politics and now targets Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) for political cancellation. Politico reports, “Thomas Massie might be the least popular man in Washington. The Kentucky congressman attempted unsuccessfully on Friday to require House members to take a recorded vote in order to pass a $2 trillion coronavirus relief package.” One of the stated objections to a recorded vote is “his efforts nonetheless forced scores of lawmakers to travel to Washington amid a pandemic to stop him.” Notwithstanding the fact that they have to travel to Washington every week when they are in session, for some reason this forced travel was the primary reason used to push back on Massie.

Rep. Massie drew the ire of some on the MAGA right like President Donald J. Trump to liberals like former Democratic candidate for President John Kerry. In the end, the leadership of both the Republican and Democratic parties in the House held hands and denied Massie the right to ask Congress to record the vote. They even prevented him from giving a speech opposing the bill as punishment for daring to request the roll call vote. The Speaker opted for a “voice vote.” The voice vote protects double-speaking politicians so they can later roll out their list of complaints about this legislation and claim they held deep reservations when the vote was quickly held.

Former failed Democratic candidate for president, John Kerry, Tweeted that Massie “tested positive for being an ***hole” and he’s given new meaning to the term #Masshole.” I grew up in Massachusetts and think that that term better describes the sanctimonious Kerry than Massie. It should raise alarms in the liberty movement when the Kerry-Clinton wing of the party openly supports this piece of legislation.

The size and scope of this relief bill is unprecedented. The bill is being marketed as a $2 trillion relief package, yet, if you add in the new authority for the Federal Reserve to backstop loans, the bill clocks much higher. The $750 billion TARP program caused a rebellion on the right and left creating the Occupy Wall Street and Tea Party movements respectively. This bill may cause an even bigger rebellion if this appropriation leads to a long-term government intervention in the private sector.

Rep. Thomas Massie was a profile in courage for standing up and demanding a roll call vote. Congress could use more members like him who show courage and are willing to stand up for the Constitution – even in the face of opposition coming from prominent members of his own party. Congress should be able to handle dissent and the possibility of a member not voting for a bill, instead of fake outrage and bullying dissenting members into supporting a bill that everybody agrees is loaded with nonsense.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 7dchess; accomplishednothing; briandarling; covidcash; cuckservative; emergencyreliefbill; fakenews; frontpage; handouts; hoosierham; iheartbiggov; libertarianism; libtardtarianism; massie; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; thomasmassie; trusttrump
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To: SmokingJoe

The fact that the bill was going to pass anyway is what made Massie’s move such a questionable one.


21 posted on 03/28/2020 6:28:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.)
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To: All

L4 labs remain open. Softkill continues...


22 posted on 03/28/2020 6:29:03 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Elsie

Massie literally should have contacted PDJT first …
Why?

Are there not THREE branches of government?
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You misread my reasoning...not for permission, bc, teamwork is better, unification...


23 posted on 03/28/2020 6:30:40 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Be still, and know that I am God...Psalm 46:10)
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To: Kaslin
Massie is the only one who is right in this whole matter. It is going to be hell to pay. Everyone better go here to read:

Click here for Ferfal on Argentina's collapse.

24 posted on 03/28/2020 6:31:34 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Codeflier

I may still vote for Trump and Republicans as the best of bad choices.But I really think this example of bipartisanship is terrifying.


25 posted on 03/28/2020 6:32:51 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham; Codeflier

The fact that JUSTIN AMASH wouldn’t even stand up and oppose this bill is all anyone needs to know about the awful political optics here.


26 posted on 03/28/2020 6:36:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Massie should be given a medal for being a hero.

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Heroes accomplished something. Did Massie accomplish anything?


27 posted on 03/28/2020 6:38:11 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: Kaslin

They don’t have to put their names to a DECLARATION of WAR (hardkill). Why should softkill legislation be any different?

If ever there was another List of Grievances drawn up, this piece of crap and the poopsters who passed it should be noted.

BOLO


28 posted on 03/28/2020 6:39:50 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Alberta's Child

Politically astute.

Nancy was Public Enemy #1.

In 1 minute Massie tookk Nancy’s position on himself.

Republicans should focus on the few Purple state Congress Critters who went for the most egregious examples of pork unrelated to the virus.


29 posted on 03/28/2020 6:41:39 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Kaslin

the Washington, D.C. based Kennedy Center was given a special $25 million bailout

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I thought Trump’s defense of this made sense and opened my eyes to at least considering opposing views.


30 posted on 03/28/2020 6:41:58 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: Kaslin

“Rep. Thomas Massie was a profile in courage for standing up and demanding a roll call vote.”

Agreed

Recorded vote is required for history.
Now, they can all deny responsibility.


31 posted on 03/28/2020 6:42:25 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: bramps

I’d like to see that defense, if you have a link.


32 posted on 03/28/2020 6:43:49 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: bramps

More importantly ... was Massie even CAPABLE of accomplishing something in this matter. He was doomed to be on the wrong side politically even if he was 100% right on the facts.


33 posted on 03/28/2020 6:44:28 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.)
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To: Kaslin

The legislative branch of government is broken.

The Senate no longer represents the states. It has become an elite country club for pompous politicians.

The House is full of professional politicians who pander to interest groups and big donors, not the voter.

The people vote to reelect incumbents. Therefore most Senators and Representatives have life tenure if they want it.

The political parties control the pipeline of candidates for Congress. Therefore it is virtually impossible for the people to throw the bums out in mass and replace with citizen legislators.

The political parties control the power structure within Congress - committee assignments, committee chairs, leadership positions.

The “ethics” committees are a joke. Congress does not throw out the bad apples within its ranks.

Almost all Congressmen and Senators are attorneys. Attorneys add no value to society, they are consumers not producers. Attorneys have no commitment to equal justice under law. In today’s world attorneys are hired guns committed to influencing outcomes and moving money from one pocket to another.


34 posted on 03/28/2020 6:44:30 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on i)
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To: Alberta's Child

“The fact that the bill was going to pass anyway is what made Massie’s move such a questionable one.”

Wrong.

Going to pass is precisely why we needed the vote. Document which Pols wanted it and which did not.


35 posted on 03/28/2020 6:46:06 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: All

Socialism is Legal Plunder - The Law; Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850.

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

But, unfortunately, law by no means confines itself to its proper functions. And when it has exceeded its proper functions, it has not done so merely in some inconsequential and debatable matters. The law has gone further than this; it has acted in direct opposition to its own purpose. The law has been used to destroy its own objective: It has been applied to annihilating the justice that it was supposed to maintain; to limiting and destroying rights which its real purpose was to respect. The law has placed the collective force at the disposal of the unscrupulous who wish, without risk, to exploit the person, liberty, and property of others. It has converted plunder into a right, in order to protect plunder. And it has converted lawful defense into a crime, in order to punish lawful defense.

https://usdebtclock.org

U.S.S.A. United Socialist State of America LOCKDOWN their slaves, hold the republic HOSTAGE.


36 posted on 03/28/2020 6:48:57 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Kaslin

We are watching the Constitution being shredded before our eyes with hardly a whimper from those who swore to protect and defend it.


37 posted on 03/28/2020 6:50:17 AM PDT by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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To: Macoozie
I agree that we needed the vote. Despite Massie’s “heroism,” we didn’t get one.
38 posted on 03/28/2020 6:51:04 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.)
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To: bramps
There was a lot of stuff in the bill that shouldn't have been there. There have some posts on FR about that.
I get it that we have a crisis, manufactured or otherwise, but the Dems always use every crises to stuff the rescue bill with totally unrelated garbage for their far left pet projects. Massie should be commended for calling them out on it.
39 posted on 03/28/2020 6:52:14 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: All
My, how quickly people on this board went from fiscally conservative to socialist-lite. If Obama had been shoving this pork-laden bill through, we'd be up in arms about his massive spending spree. And rightly so.

No one even bothered to question where they came up with 880 pages so quickly. And you know very well that NONE of them personally read it in its entirety before voting on it. That doesn't bother you in the least?

$2.2 Trillion.

This bill effectively went unchallenged because government really has got to do something (and we all know Government knows how to fix everything)! What a farce, and you all know it. Now you guys have the audacity to criticize a man who stood ground.

It was gonna pass anyway...
He couldn't keep his political ego checked...
He was tilting against a windmill...
It makes the Republicans look divided
Now Pelosi's no longer the bad guy...

My question is, where were all the other fiscally conservative congress critters? As a matter of fact, where are the fiscal conservatives on this board?

Sorry, but we've been sold a bill of goods. Once again, we trust politicians to get us out of a mess they got us into. And we're almost giddy about digging ourselves deeper in debt.

Well, enjoy your $1200. Hope it was worth it.
40 posted on 03/28/2020 6:52:23 AM PDT by tenger (And we let the Government padlock the church doors...)
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