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Paul, Lee urging Trump to kill House FISA deal
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Posted on 03/12/2020 7:03:59 AM PDT by nagant

Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Mike Lee (R-Utah) are working to kill a House deal to reauthorize expiring intelligence programs and reform the surveillance court, throwing up an eleventh hour roadblock to the agreement.

The two libertarian-minded Republicans, who are close allies of President Trump's, are urging Trump to veto the House agreement, which pairs a reauthorization of expiring intelligence programs with broader changes to the court associated with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

"The president I think really would like to see real reform, and I think the open question is whether or not he'll take what [Attorney General William] Barr's giving him. So we're letting the president know that we think it's weak sauce, that it doesn't fix the problem," Paul told reporters.

Asked if he thought he could convince Trump to oppose the House agreement — which is backed by leadership in both parties as well Trump allies like Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) — Paul added: "That would change things, but I don't know. ... But we will try."

Lee is also publicly and privately urging Trump to veto the House bill, if it were to reach his desk. The House is expected to pass the bill later Wednesday, setting up a vote in the Senate as soon as Thursday.

"The House FISA deal doesn’t fix what’s wrong with FISA. It would not have stopped the spying that occurred against @realDonaldTrump. I will do everything I can to oppose it in the Senate. If it passes, @realDonaldTrump should veto it," Lee tweeted.....


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KEYWORDS: 116th; fisaabuse; fisacourt; trumpdoj
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What's wrong with this bill?

1. It allows the Justice Department to obtain FISA warrants on classes of people, for example, millions of Verizon customers. Constitutionally a warrant must contain the name of a specific person, and what the law enforcement agency is allowed to search and search for.

2. The current FISA court has shown that they have no problem with abusing their warrant authority. They issued warrants for spying on the Trump campaign based on obviously self-conflicting information in warrant applications.

Yes, the bill is bipartisan. So what? Veto it, and let the FISA court's extra-jurisdictional authority expire.

1 posted on 03/12/2020 7:03:59 AM PDT by nagant
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To: nagant

Good idea.


2 posted on 03/12/2020 7:06:26 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: nagant

Oops, here’s the link:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/487094-paul-lee-urging-trump-to-kill-house-fisa-deal


3 posted on 03/12/2020 7:07:12 AM PDT by nagant
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Oops, here’s the link:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/487094-paul-lee-urging-trump-to-kill-house-fisa-deal


4 posted on 03/12/2020 7:07:22 AM PDT by nagant
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Don't approve any bill until people are prosecuted for already breaking the law.

Sh*t talks.

5 posted on 03/12/2020 7:08:05 AM PDT by budj (Combat vet, 2nd of three generations.)
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To: nagant

No Republican who votes for this blatantly unconstitutional bill should claim to be a conservative when running for office this election year. They should be defeated.


6 posted on 03/12/2020 7:10:23 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: nagant
No FISA re-authorization while McCabe, Comey, Brennan and Clapper are free men.
Give them 20 year terms in the Federal pen. and we'll consider it....
7 posted on 03/12/2020 7:12:08 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again".)
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To: nagant

You convinced me.


8 posted on 03/12/2020 7:12:50 AM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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It will be VERY depressing if President Trump signs anything that reauthorizes FISA.


9 posted on 03/12/2020 7:13:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Yes, the bill is bipartisan.

"The definition of bipartisan is that a bigger than usual deception is underway."

- George Carlin


10 posted on 03/12/2020 7:14:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: nagant

It still has to go through the Senate (where Paul and Lee will have a vote) and, should there be major differences in the versions, it would go through a conference committee and a re-vote before it even gets to Trump’s desk. So this is all a bit premature.

I do think Trump will have a hard time approving any FISA bill that doesn’t have safeguards to prevent them from doing what was done to him. Just my hunch.


11 posted on 03/12/2020 7:16:53 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (The Democrats - Unafraid to burn in Hell.)
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Yes, the bill is bipartisan. So what? Veto it, and let the FISA court's extra-jurisdictional authority expire.

I hope our President listens to your advice.

This 'fix' is a scam, and does nothing that will change fbi/doj/fisa behavior.

Nothing in this bill will send any more bad guys to jail nor even scare them from doing again what they did to the The President.

12 posted on 03/12/2020 7:19:14 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB, TERRORISTS, NOW!)
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Yes, and fire that useless POS Deep-State operative Bill Barr while you are at it.

Or does someone want to tell me again about all the indictments that are just around the corner?


13 posted on 03/12/2020 7:22:37 AM PDT by Junk Silver ("It's a little hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting at you." SirLurkedalot)
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“It still has to go through the Senate (where Paul and Lee will have a vote) and, should there be major differences in the versions, it would go through a conference committee and a re-vote before it even gets to Trump’s desk. So this is all a bit premature.”

True. But think of it this way... these senators know that the Republican caucus in the senate can get a little weak-kneed because there are 4 or 5 members who always seem to want to vote with the opposition. If you were Sens. Paul or Lee, wouldn’t it be ‘smart’ to try & get the President on record as to how he might use his veto? That clarifies their strategic options when things do get to the senate.


14 posted on 03/12/2020 7:24:25 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!))
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To: libertylover

I should have added another reason for vetoing this bill.....

3. Congress is responsible for reining in the FISA court’s abuse of authority. The bill was passed by a congress which has proven themselves incapable of performing this task.


15 posted on 03/12/2020 7:34:55 AM PDT by nagant
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How can Mike Lee be so right on bill of rights issues, yet dead wrong, even treasonous on H1-Bs and betraying American workers on behalf of Indian lobbyists? Is he mentally ill?


16 posted on 03/12/2020 7:42:15 AM PDT by montag813
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To: nagant

“Bipartisan” bills are usually the worst for the country, since they are almost all left-wing in nature and designed to push that agenda.


17 posted on 03/12/2020 7:44:29 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Put the unconstitutional Secret court out of its misery and the problems of its misconduct and danger are solved


18 posted on 03/12/2020 8:09:41 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE).)
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To: nagant

Trump will veto it.


19 posted on 03/12/2020 8:32:36 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Junk Silver

Yes, and fire that useless POS Deep-State operative Bill Barr while you are at it.
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Well and truly said, and every word of it! Perhaps others have also noticed that Joe deGenova, his wife, and several others who were guests on Fox night after night praising Barr have magically disappeared from the airwaves! I suspected within a few days of his appointment that he was just another Deep State puppet like the Alabama Weasel.


20 posted on 03/12/2020 9:52:22 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (To save America the Left MUST be aggressively attacked on every front.)
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