Posted on 03/05/2020 11:14:10 AM PST by nickcarraway
Why wasn’t it in a bank check?
There’s the rub. I just saw a video about a guy who just got his $400,000 back because they took too long to file charges. That one probably WAS drug money.
And here’s the problem. I’m all for CRIMINAL forfeiture. But not civil. If you want to take a guy’s stuff, you’re gonna have to file charges and get a conviction. The reason is simple. I would rather law enforcement err in the direction of not being able to nab all bad guys rather than err in the direction of nailing innocent people. In fact, that is why I think we adhere to the concept of “innocent until proven guilty”.
This is why the whole civil asset forfeiture thing has completely destroyed my support for our government. Maybe that’s a good thing. I see it for what it is.
On some issues, yes, they agree on crime-busting tactics.
The Clintons and Bidens are too tough on crime for Democrats.
[This guy has filed a Federal lawsuit challenging the entire program.
They are giving him his money back in an effort to make nice and hope he drops it and goes away.
I don’t think he will.]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Justice
Found it =>
Cop took just 3 seconds to shoot dog
01/08/2003
The Tennessee policeman who shot and killed a family’s dog during a terrorizing traffic stop took just three seconds to slay the animal after it jumped out its owners’ car, reports the Cookeville Herald-Citizen.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/819436/posts?page=458
I’m sorry but their money was not stolen by criminals, lost, misplaced, left unattended, or made insecure by them. It was taken by legalized theft by the government, with no foundation for suspecting the money had been obtained by criminal means.
Civil Asset Forfeiture has become a mass criminal asset forfeiture by law enforcement at every level.
Nothing that the people did, seemingly dumb or not, is any legitimate cause for what the DEA did.
I have carried thousands of dollars to classic car shows in order to purchase cars I might want. Most sellers will not take a check especially when the transfer of ownership will occur at the time of sale. When I moved to the Philippines I brought close to $20,000 so that we could build a house. I did not have a Philippine bank account at the time and the local rural bank did not have a “dollar” account. I changed the dollars to Philippine Pesos when I needed to buy materials and pay labor.
There are thousands of legitimate reasons to have large sums of cash on you at any time. Unless L/E can make a case that meets warrant criteria they should not be allowed to seize the money.
The criminal government at it again.
JoMa
I’m going to wash my hands
And you don’t even know where they’ve been :)
What is comical is that in civil forfeiture cases, do you know who they bring the charges against?
The stuff they seized.
I know. They do it anyways.
While it may be foolish to carry large amounts of cash, that is completely irrelevant to the issue of CAF. If there is no probable cause, then there is a clear violation of someone’s 4th and 5th Amendment rights.
There are quite a few 'good germans' on FR.
These are the cases that distinguish those who hold Constitutional limited government as a principle, and those who selectively wield it as a tactic.
Thank you!
The agents were only following orders. Make it PLUS JAIL TIME FOR THOSE WHO GAVE THE ORDERS!
What she is only ‘stupid’ because there are predatory thieves in police uniforms hungry to steal money.
In free country, you shouldn’t have your assets seized without due process.
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