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WHO Says Coronavirus Death Rate Is 3.4% Globally, Higher Than Previously Thought
CNBC ^ | Tuesday, March 3, 2020 | Berkeley Lovelace, Jr. and Noah Higgins-Dunn

Posted on 03/03/2020 3:07:04 PM PST by kristinn

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To: reed13k

Thanks: Tricky words are used with the ChiCom virus’ so called cases:

Key in the sentence is “of reported cases”. A large number of cases are not being officially diagnosed with tests, Only those receiving hospital care, as I understand. They’ve also said multiple times that about 8o%. are minor cases that don’t require advanced treatments and therefore don’t get officially tested. The full denominator isn’t really known.

The real tests from CDC have started arriving this week.

Even then, apparent cases of the virus will be labeled: Presumed, not actual cases.

How reliable are S Korea’s drive thru tests?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/asia/coronavirus-drive-through-south-korea-hnk-intl/index.html


61 posted on 03/03/2020 4:05:10 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( Welcome to Mass Quarantinofornia !!!.. Sanctuary State in rapid decline!!!.. Norm's Revenge)
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To: hsmomx3

Well, you “might” be wrong.

The system in most hospitals is already maxed out with the flu. If there are a bunch of cases in a smaller location it will quickly overwhelm the system.

If we see numbers like Korea or Italy in a small area, it will crush the local hospital system.

And remember, the are givers and first responders are usually the second victims.


62 posted on 03/03/2020 4:05:40 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: kristinn

“Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died,”


And in the middle of an epidemic, that’s a pretty meaningless figure. It’s not like the other 96% have recovered. That low number is not related to the lethality of the disease, but rather the rate of spread, so it doesn’t tell you what it implies and if it ever does it will do so only by coincidence. If it spread even faster, with the same lethality, that % of reported cases which have died would be lower - even though it would be much a worse outcome.

Excluding China, there are roughly 12,700 reported cases.
Of those reported cases, there are only 825 who have recovered, compared to 214 dead. We haven’t hit the part of the curve yet where that CFR begins to drop.


63 posted on 03/03/2020 4:05:41 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: kristinn

Does that 3.4% include the number of people the Chinese shot for breaking quarantine?


64 posted on 03/03/2020 4:05:58 PM PST by Gritty (The Left has nothing to offer anyone that must not first be taken from someone else. - F. Porretto)
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To: EBH

If cases in the northwest show evidence of two or three generations of mutations as we have been informed...

...where are the bodies of the people who would have to have
died in the intervening generations then?


65 posted on 03/03/2020 4:08:22 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: kristinn; proust
I wonder what data they are getting that is different from the rest us.

It's not. This is just a simple matter of arithmetic based on the figures we have been getting for weeks.

For instance today: 92,880 cases so far, 3168 deaths.

3168/32880 = 3.4%

Of course, unfortunately more of the 41,217 remaining infected patients reported as of today will also not survive.

66 posted on 03/03/2020 4:09:27 PM PST by wideminded
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To: MeganC

WHO says 3.4% mortality rate worldwide.


Actually, no they aren’t. They’re giving bibble-babble ratios that aren’t the mortality rate, but rather, the # of dead divided by the rate of spread.

If the actual mortality rate stays the same, but the disease slows its spread, this figure will go up. If the disease spreads faster with the same actual mortality rate, this number they gave out will go down.


67 posted on 03/03/2020 4:10:05 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: MrEdd

WHO don’t believe a damn word coming from them DEEP DEEP STATE!!!


68 posted on 03/03/2020 4:10:24 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: dfwgator
I've been getting shivers lately, is it flu?
I know the bug is going round, what can I do?
It's about to pick on me, I've still got the other three
Do you think I caught smallpox I'd get through?

69 posted on 03/03/2020 4:11:02 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: wildcard_redneck

I think that because there are so many people who get the disease and then either have no symptoms or have very mild symptoms and thereby never see a doctor that the actual death rate might be much lower.


While that might turn out to be true, it is not relevant to this figure. This 3.4% figure is just plain bad and misleading math.


70 posted on 03/03/2020 4:11:58 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: kristinn

Thanks Kristin!

China has started destroying info.

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3821304/reply?c=1


71 posted on 03/03/2020 4:12:22 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Vermont Lt

“If we see numbers like Korea or Italy in a small area, it will crush the local hospital system.”

How reliable are S Korea’s drive thru tests?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/asia/coronavirus-drive-through-south-korea-hnk-intl/index.html


72 posted on 03/03/2020 4:13:33 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( Welcome to Mass Quarantinofornia !!!.. Sanctuary State in rapid decline!!!.. Norm's Revenge)
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To: kristinn

Has WHO officially called this a pandemic, yet??


73 posted on 03/03/2020 4:13:45 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: jstolzen
It’s been 3.4 - 3.5% for a couple of weeks now, for anyone that cares to do basic division.

Math is hard.

"He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense." John McCarthy

74 posted on 03/03/2020 4:15:17 PM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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To: kristinn

If many people have a mild case, my guess is many cases are not reported at all. That drives the total number of cases down, and calculated death rate up.

3.4% mortality rate is sky high.


75 posted on 03/03/2020 4:17:15 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: billyboy15

The article is nonsense. How can they know the death rate when they have yet to determine how many have contracted this virus?


The article is nonsense, but they tell you exactly how they calculated the figure.

The divided the number of reported dead by the number of reported sick. It has only a loose relationship to the death rate, as this number *falls* because the disease reports spread quickly, and *rises* as the disease slows reports of infection. That’s the opposite of what they are implying.


76 posted on 03/03/2020 4:17:31 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Grampa Dave

I have no idea.

As an aside,

I was at a meeting yesterday with some EM people. We just got a four lane drive thru Point of Distribution system. It’s designed for distributing food or supplies, but they cited vaccinations and testing as uses as well.

I guess these came about from the hurricanes and flooding the past.

I am sure that Korea is following standard protocols for their testing. They certainly do a lot more than the US has been doing.


77 posted on 03/03/2020 4:17:54 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: WildHighlander57

Your link wasn’t working.

Here’s the ChiCom data cover up thread link....

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3821304/posts


78 posted on 03/03/2020 4:18:56 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: kristinn

3.4% is what it works out to, dividing total number of deaths by number of corona virus cases. Numbers came from Fox News shows.


79 posted on 03/03/2020 4:19:58 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Vermont Lt

I became concerned about this virus when Wuhan got locked down. Everyone else was oblivious to it. It gave me a month to quietly obtain supplies that now people are panic buying.. I figure if I have enough food, toilet paper, wine etc. then I can limit the number of times I have to go to the grocery store.
What irritates me is that people compare this to the flu, yet they never saw or read what was happening in China late Jan early Feb.
I take a class in which there are a lot of people and children. The instructor is not trying to take steps to combat transmission, like wiping down door handles, etc. I have now come to the conclusion that it is not a safe place for me, and will stop the class.


80 posted on 03/03/2020 4:20:44 PM PST by kaila
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