Posted on 02/17/2020 6:16:29 AM PST by artichokegrower
and Italians, but I notice they don’t go around demanding an apology like the Japanese. Even baseball great Joe DiMaggio family were taken to a camp.
The FBI had a list of the DAB members who were stand outs, they had them under surveillance and then scooped them up and sent them packing to Texas in one of the detention centers for the duration. The same with the Italian Fascist-as. Too many German Americans to lock up, Geeez what would we have done without the Reinhart Bros. who led US divisions in Germany or General Walter Krueger who lead the 6th Army in the Pacific.
Here are some others.I am sure there are lesser known Commanders through out all the Branches. We had generations of Germans here that go back to the early 1700s. The DAB types were late comers, who still had the dust on their shoulders from WW 1.
Huebner (V Corps)
Reinhart (65th Division)
Dager (11th Armored Division)
Schmidt (76th Division)
Lauer (99th Division)
Reinhardt (69th Division)(Gen. Bolte before him)
Kramer (66th Division)
Stroh (106th Division)
Gerhardt (29th Division)
Baade (35th Division)
Robert Lawrence Eichelberger (8th Army Pacific)
Spaatz (8th AF, Strategic Air Forces in Europe)
Vandenberg (12th AF)
Thank you very much - I stand corrected :)
I think it was Earl Warren maybe, who was Governor of California at the time, who was instrumental. He was a “Republican” - though not particularly conservative as later events proved after appointment to the Supreme Court.
The fact of the matter is that up until and including 1942 the allies were getting their ass kicked thoroughly around the globe, defeat after defeat. In those days there wasn’t any messing around. Washington was serious about winning a two front war and wasn’t leaving anything to chance. Hindsight may be 20/20 but it was not inevitable that the Allies would be victorious - there is no such thing as “The Arc Of History” and the revisionist feel good history BS.
If they did something back then - anything - a time when even an empty toothpaste tube was rationed, they thought it was prudent, and necessary. Full stop. Maybe they were wrong, but that isn’t quite the same thing is it?
Seriously, in order to get a new tube of toothpaste, the old one had to be exchanged. They were actually made of metal, a tin/lead alloy of some kind, and thus needed for industry. Every civilian factory had been nationalized by the federal government. NO consumer goods were manufactured for the duration. No bicycles, no toasters, washing machines, radios, no cars, no nothing. EVERYTHING was directed towards planes, tanks, ships, weapons of war.
The notion that both the federal and state government would, out of some inherent racism, spend inordinate time, money, and resources to screw over Japanese Americans doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. They must have been pretty damn concerned and decided it wasn’t worth the RISK.
This is also a very good metric with which to gauge how serious the government takes their responsibility. Because it illustrates very clearly that when the government wants to accomplish a goal, and directs its full weight behind it, amazing things can be accomplished. The Manhattan Project. Landing on the Moon. Deporting Illegal Aliens.
Wait, what?
Italians mentioned in #21
This is a great book. Not only does it go into the fact that Japanese and Japanese Americans were involved in espionage and subterfuge, it also tells the story of how the facts were never allowed into the hearings that proved the necessity of the internments.
And they used their own women as sex slaves liberals tilt heads like dog.
It’s worth it, it’s good stuff. Lots of reproductions or original documents.
IMO, those people were the only ones who deserved reparations. Many reported that they could not sell their businesses or even personal belonging as their “neighbors” knew they had to leave everything behind.
Thousands of Nisei joined the armed forces to prove their patriotism. Damned if I would. “I’ll enlist when you let my folks back into Society, otherwise, kiss off.”
Years back, the Readers Digest had a snip about a Nisei kid trying to enlist in the WWII Army. The recruiter asked the kid if he’d fight against “his own people”. The kid’s eyes widened and he asked, “Oh Geez, are we going to have another Civil War?’
And they put these fully assimilated people into camps.
They received cash reparations in the early 90s IIRC 20 or 30,000 for each living person who was in camp. My secretary bought a Lexus 350 sedan.
you shouldn’t be surprised by anything Cal does at this point.
My secretary’s 1990) family had a farm in Florin east of Sacramento. That farm was abandoned. They had a 24-hour notice to report to the train station. They went to Manzanar for the duration of the war. Her future husband went to Tule Lake. Lost their farm.
When reparations came thru, her elderly mother and she and her husband each got 20 or 30,000 don’t remember which. At that time, their previous farm was a housing development, the land worth 1.1 million.
She had a panoramic photo of a Florin gathering circa 39. She was a little girl in the photo. Maybe 200 people. Saw that photo in a Smithsonian exhibition of the camps.
Just sharing her story. If she was alive, I’m sure she would say the reparations were enough. She and her husband went to the campsites and pulled weeds and planted flowers till they physically could’t do it anymore.
Too many Italians to have enough camps. The mob was very patriotic american and cooperated with the military. Luciano ran intelligence from Italians to the US government. For his [ay he was deported after the war.
*All* Japanese on the West Coast (well at least nisei Japanese)?
If so, we'll disagree. It was a knee-jerk reaction to detain *all* Japanese.
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