Posted on 02/11/2020 5:13:55 PM PST by Starcitizen
..get the govt check from the US and sit in some third world country to live like a king...
..that is all great but there are consequences when you decide to leave your own country and take up in third world countries and that is you get crazy leaders like Duerte.......
just live with the consequences, that is all.....and don't expect people who live, work, and pay taxes in the US to feel sorry for those who are no longer citizens here.....
You need to follow up on these links.
The Clark electric power utility deal was ultimately awarded to Meralco (the Manila electric utility) / Marubeni (Japan) joint venture, not some Chinese.
And infrastructure construction contracts have recently gone to a Malaysian firm (the stadium), an Indian firm (the terminal), etc.
The terminal O&M contracts foreign partner is Singapores Changi.
They ARE citizens!
Just living somewhere else.
And they can retire without being a burden on Medicare at least. That should make sense to anyone. Every expat is saving the US a pile of money.
Private local medical insurance here is a fraction of even medigap.
One of the stupidest things the US neocons running the State Dept Deep State did is alienate Russia rather than make Russia a partner is creating a new stable world order. These neocons want to have to impose vassalage on other nations and can not abide partnerships. The Russians could have been an ally against a rising China but for some stupid reason we antagonize them by encroaching on the Russian sphere of influence.
Yep, nobody want to be a slave and listen to others telling them how to run their railroad.
Even if patronizing is supported by generous amounts 9f handouts which mostly goes back in kickbacks these days.
As for encroaching into Russian territory the funniest thing is US has no use for it.
In Asia US attacks on Russian influence only led to growing Islamic and Chinese influence. All contrary to US interests.
We Have no need to add those nations we did to NATO post Cold War. If anything, the fact NATO can’t defeat goat herding cave dwellers in Afghanistan after 20 years is proof adding to NATO was worthless.
Even my native Greece, which is one of the few nations in NATO that meets its military spending requirements, does so to fend off Turkey, not Russia.
Though I must admit the fall of the USSR and the end of the Cold War ruined the Olympics for me and also ruined the James Bond movies.
One of the reasons Russia made an alliance with Iran is that 99% of Russia's Muslims are Sunni and Iran is Shia. Russia allying with Iran makes sense because Iran being Shia has no influence on Russian Muslims and the Russians can use Iran to pressure the Saudis who like to fund the Sunni Jihadist Islamist separatists in Russia.
It is a win/win for Russia to back Shia Iran - especially after the USA was giving diplomatic cover to Chechen jihadists funded by the Saudis.
Duterte realizes that the USA is unlikely to counter Chinese aggression, so he will try Chinese appeasement. He is very popular with Filipino’s.
The Russians and Chinese will not be spending money like an American would.
And I think things would become too uncomfortable for the Expats. Kind of like when MS13 moves into a nice neighborhood, folks leave and the place is destroyed.
And if there was pressure for the Expats to leave, who would they turn to? The Filipino government? The one that just tossed the US out and signed a deal with either one?
“The Russians could have been an ally against a rising China but for some stupid reason we antagonize them by encroaching on the Russian sphere of influence.”
That is hilarious. The Russians, ala Putin, have allied themselves with the dredge of the international world. They cozy up to North Korea and Iran and support shitholes like Venezuela as communist countries.
Putin has no interest in cooperating with the US in anyway. They have alienated former Warsaw Pact and former states they controlled as the Soviets. NATO is very effective at protecting former Warsaw Pact states that wish to be out of the yoke of Russia. These states choose the US and NATO, not the other way around.
In regard to PI...simply cut off all military relations and let the Chinese take their fishing grounds and islands. Give Duterte what he wants. Let them lie in it. Political power changes from time to time. They will be back if we have the guts to make them pay the price.
~~~~And I think things would become too uncomfortable for the Expats. Kind of like when MS13 moves into a nice neighborhood, folks leave and the place is destroyed.
And if there was pressure for the Expats to leave, who would they turn to? The Filipino government? The one that just tossed the US out and signed a deal with either one?~~~~
Is this take based on any examples from recent history?
~~~~That is hilarious. The Russians, ala Putin, have allied themselves with the dredge of the international world. They cozy up to North Korea and Iran and support shitholes like Venezuela as communist countries.
Putin has no interest in cooperating with the US in anyway. They have alienated former Warsaw Pact and former states they controlled as the Soviets. NATO is very effective at protecting former Warsaw Pact states that wish to be out of the yoke of Russia. These states choose the US and NATO, not the other way around.~~~~
That’s called geopolitics or a political football.
Russia was pretty much interested in cooperation with US but these times are gone.
Nations don’t have friends, they have interests.
There is no interest for Russia to have any relations with US because it is a one way road at this point.
It is not unique to Russia, really. You’d hardly tell any genuine allies of US at this point.
Is this anything like Trump giving northern Syria to Turkey and Russia? After all the nice things he said about Duterte, he must be really disappointed.
Putin is the worst of the old Cold Warriors. He can’t see any options other than opposing the US. It’s a shame too, because it would be in the interest of Russia to integrate into the West.
Never going to happen with a KGB guy running things. He simply holds on to his power by pretending they are still a superpower. They have no economy relative to a serious power. Oh, he can poke states and flyover carriers and simple Cold War BS like that. But he is fairly impotent less his old KGB tricks.
The Russian people suffer economically and with the freedom and rights that Putin sees fit to allow them to live under.
China’s main goal is control of the South China Sea and the oil potential. Vietnam, Indonesia, Japan, Taiwan are all interested, as was Philippines before Duterte.
You are repeating left wing media and no substance to back these claims.
Russia had pretty much good relations with US until after Bush started to plan missiles in East Europe.
Which made no sense because as you say ‘Russia is not a serious power’.
What freedoms and economic suffering Putin caused upon Russian people? They have more freedom and economic opportunities than ever before current regime. If you want to argue it I want to hear facts, not manifests.
All Western-tied regimes around to the countrary are sunken in corruption and poverty. Not a good advertising of American influence. If you want it to expand call your representatives to fix it.
No. I’m to the right of Atilla the Hun.
However, you are spouting RT propaganda from Russia.
“What freedoms and economic suffering Putin caused upon Russian people?”
You can expect to be taken seriously, spouting idiocy like that.
~~~~No. I’m to the right of Atilla the Hun.~~~~
That’s hard to compile with Marxist propaganda vis a vis Russia you are talking but I take your word for it.
~~~~“What freedoms and economic suffering Putin caused upon Russian people?”
You can expect to be taken seriously, spouting idiocy like that.~~~~
It was told we might agree if you’d tell facts instead of manifests and now this.
Comparing to what period Russian living standards are worse now according to you?
Yeltsin or Gorbachev era? Or maybe you think Stalin’s government was better? Nicholas II? Ivan IV? Curious minds want to know your point.
In any event, he's put himself directly in the line of fire.
My point: The Chinese are interested in controlling the Philippines... that do NOT give a rat's a$$ about Duterte. He can easily be replaced once they seize control.
I don’t get this forum. Folks claim they want an end to endless wars and defense agreements obligating US forces. Then when other countries offer an opportunity to do so (Iraq and the Philippines) people here get angry.
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It’s because not all people here want that. I support a less interventionist policy, but this site has been the home for hawks too. There were many more during the post 9-11 years, but to be fair I was more hawkish too. I didn’t mind invading Iraq to dismantle/seize WMD technology. The nation-building/ puppet-government projects....not so much.
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