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Furor Erupts Over Killing of Witness in MS-13 Gang Case.The slaying became a flash point for opponents of changes to the criminal justice system pushed by progressive lawmakers in New York.
New York Times ^
| February 5, 2020
| Ed Shanahan
Posted on 02/05/2020 5:24:10 PM PST by karpov
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Democrats do not want to deport illegals who become MS-13 gang members, they support "sanctuary" for illegals so that they are not reported to ICE when they commit crimes, and they give MS-13 gang members the names of witnesses who would testify against them. Whose side are they on?
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:24:10 PM PST
by
karpov
To: karpov
The Italian mob used to bribe cops to look the other way.
What is the Mexican mob using to buy influence?
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:28:45 PM PST
by
a fool in paradise
(We need a tax to stamp out Communism- If you espouse Marxism weÂ’ll redistribute all of your money.)
To: a fool in paradise
Whatever it is, they gotta lot of it.
They own Albany.
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:32:18 PM PST
by
mewzilla
(Break out the mustard seeds.)
To: a fool in paradise
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:32:35 PM PST
by
Eric in the Ozarks
(Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
To: a fool in paradise
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:33:12 PM PST
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: karpov
Not the 1st time they’ve killed a witness
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:34:48 PM PST
by
nuconvert
( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
To: mewzilla
Corrupt democrat bosses want more voters at any price to America.
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:35:09 PM PST
by
a fool in paradise
(We need a tax to stamp out Communism- If you espouse Marxism weÂ’ll redistribute all of your money.)
To: karpov
New York politicians would rather Americans die than enforce US immigration laws.
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:35:48 PM PST
by
Lurkinanloomin
(Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
To: a fool in paradise
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:36:56 PM PST
by
mewzilla
(Break out the mustard seeds.)
To: a fool in paradise
Most of the time, the Italian mobsters didnt kill their victims back in the day. They persuaded them to see things differently.
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:36:59 PM PST
by
wjcsux
(Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.)
To: a fool in paradise
Corrupt democrat bosses want more voters at any price to America.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately there are plenty of Bush League Republicans that want to help them get that permanent majority with amnesty.
Graham, Rubio, Hoeven and Murkowsky have already done it.
Graham has done it THREE times.
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:38:34 PM PST
by
Lurkinanloomin
(Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
To: wjcsux
The mob kills snitches. Even decades later people are afraid to say things even in passing.
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:43:17 PM PST
by
a fool in paradise
(We need a tax to stamp out Communism- If you espouse Marxism weÂ’ll redistribute all of your money.)
To: karpov
The prosecutor could have requested and the judge ordered that the witness’s name be shielded, or released only to defense attorneys and not the accused (which is open to many a slip.)
This should be standard in gang cases.
It’s quite possible they already knew who they had beaten up.
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:53:13 PM PST
by
heartwood
(Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
To: karpov
The Homeland Security acting secretary Chad Wolf was just on Tucker. Tucker asked about New York issuing driver’s licenses to everyone. The Secretary said that was of concern, but of more concern are restrictions preventing ICE and Customs and Border Protection from accessing the NY DMV data base to get photographs and other records. Because of that the Secretary said DHS sent a letter today to the New York saying they were discontinuing applications and renewal for NY residents using the “Global Entry) trusted traveler programs like TSA PreCheck, Clear, etc.
Stan by for major uproar!!
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:54:40 PM PST
by
CedarDave
(Democrats are the Granola Party -full of fruits, nuts and flakes. And they lie, that's who they are.)
To: karpov; Behind Liberal Lines; Chode; mass55th; lysie; Steely Tom; The Mayor
Couldn’t see that one coming, could we?
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posted on
02/05/2020 5:56:50 PM PST
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: metmom
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posted on
02/05/2020 6:02:25 PM PST
by
Chode
(Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
To: karpov
Yep, these "reforms" were implemented so the Marxists could turn these criminals into their foot soldiers. This is the "army" Obama was referring to on the campaign trail back in 2008.
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posted on
02/05/2020 6:07:51 PM PST
by
Major Matt Mason
("No. Without justice, there is no fun. Words, words, and more words. Fewer words, more arrests.")
To: karpov
First, they stabbed him several times and beat him with a bat - but were not charged with attempted murder? Only “assault”?
Second, knowing their violent tendencies they didn’t provide the witness any protection?
Murdering witnesses is the kind of the thing the Mob used to do. And allowing witnesses to go unprotected is only going to make it harder for prosecutors to get witnesses in future cases.
This was a fustercluck every which way you look at it.
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posted on
02/05/2020 6:11:16 PM PST
by
monkeyshine
(live and let live is dead)
To: Lurkinanloomin
They need guards for the Gulags they want to put us in.
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posted on
02/05/2020 6:14:24 PM PST
by
rxh4n1
To: heartwood
NY State has made major changes to the justice system and now even judges cannot get someone kept in jail, prevented from learning the identity of the witnesses, etc. The whole point of the article is that there is now no protection, and this was the first death directly traceable to this new policy.
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posted on
02/05/2020 6:21:05 PM PST
by
livius
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