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THE STATE OF THINGS FOR DEMS: GLOOMY & GETTING GLOOMIER
Powerline ^ | JANUARY 25, 2020 | STEVEN HAYWARD

Posted on 01/25/2020 1:59:51 PM PST by Hojczyk

It’s still early and things can change fast, but several new polls show Bernie Sanders surging in Iowa and New Hampshire as well as nationally, as Warren continues to stumble, Biden continues to unimpress, and Buttigieg continues to ignore the propeller beanie hat stuck to his head.

If Sanders sweeps Iowa and New Hampshire and surges in South Carolina and Nevada, he could become well nigh unstoppable.

The problem for Democrats is that taking down Bernie might well ensure they lose the election because lots of Bernie bros won’t vote for Joe Biden or the other powdered milk substitutes. We know a significant portion of Bernie voters in 2016 ended up voting for Trump in November. What might happen this year? A recent Emerson College poll found that only 53 percent of current Bernie voters said they would definitely support another Democratic nominee. The NY Times offers this typical anecdote from the campaign trail:

Elsewhere on the increasingly broad Democratic spectrum, Pete Doyle, who attended a Sanders rally in Manchester, N.H., last weekend, had a ready answer when asked about voting for Mr. Biden: “Never in a million years.” He said that if Mr. Biden won the nomination, he would either vote for a third-party nominee or sit out the general election.

Even worse news: the latest YouGov “generic ballot” poll for the House, which had showed a solid Democratic advantage, is now showing only a 1 point Democratic edge over Republicans. And Trump’s approval rating is near its highest level since he took office, along with new survey data showing the satisfaction with the state of the nation at its highest level in 15 years. The raw number—41 percent—may not seem like much to cheer about, but its the kind of number that gets presidents re-elected.

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1 posted on 01/25/2020 1:59:51 PM PST by Hojczyk
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"And guess who will be constitutionally eligible to run for president in 2024? (Hint: Her initials are AOC.)"

Well, there you go. THAT explains a lot.

2 posted on 01/25/2020 2:07:16 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

You are assuming that Occasional-Cortex will be re-elected in 2020.


3 posted on 01/25/2020 2:10:49 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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Democrats Are Impeaching Trump Because They Can’t Beat Him in the election!

Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | January 20, 2020 | Rush Limbaugh
Posted on 1/20/2020, 1:32:38 PM by Kaslin

RUSH: Now, you know I have always believed that the Democrats have known that Trump was not gonna be convicted in an impeachment trial in the Senate.

So why do this? What’s the purpose? The worst thing that could happen is for Trump to be acquitted. I mean, here they’ve got this three-year investment into Trump being a traitor and a Russian spy, a Russian agent, whatever else they have said he is. With all of it, they don’t have an impeachable offense. They’ve got these two really pathetic articles of impeachment — and in order to keep the base of the Democrat Party energized and engaged, Pelosi had to go ahead and present the articles.

I think the Democrats have given up on beating Trump in November. Now, you might disagree, and you might think it’s too soon, and you might think, “No, they’ll never concede those kinds of things, Rush. You know them well enough to know that that’s not true.” I think… We’ve heard enough of them say, “If we don’t impeach Trump, he’s gonna be reelected.” Look, folks, they have their own internal polls. They know that things out there in America are rosier and better than they have been in many people’s lifetimes, that there is no reason under the sun to change horses here.

They know this. I believe they never thought they would actually be able to remove Trump from office via impeachment, either. I think as I’ve watched these things happen in the past, well, weeks and days, I think they obviously want to dirty Trump up. They want to put an asterisk next to his name. There’s some Clinton payback here as well. This is all about the 2020 campaign, but not for the presidency. They’re not gonna give up on it — I don’t want to be totally misunderstood — but they know that their odds there are very long.

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4 posted on 01/25/2020 2:11:51 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Impeachment is all that you have left when you lose every argument. Life's losers love impeachment!)
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Could Bernie win against Trump?

I don’t think so. However, the media believes they are a brainwashing tool. They believe they can achieve mental control over enough to form a majority of the electorate. They did a good job in the 2018 midterms, but the Repubs did a lousy job thanks to Paul Ryan and the fact that Trump was not running.

President Trump is so formidable that his arguments against socialism will be devastating in any debate setting.

I fully expect Sanders to refuse to debate...maybe ANY democrat will refuse to debate Trump.

Who will be their actual nominee? The establishment doesn’t want bernie, so my sense is that the NYT tipped the insider hand last week. It will probably be Klobuchar and a YOUNG anointed VP this time. It will be a bone to the progressives, so I’m going with a media star....Rachel Maddow???


5 posted on 01/25/2020 2:14:01 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: SVTCobra03

Her District won’t be gerrymandered out until 2022.


6 posted on 01/25/2020 2:15:24 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Hojczyk

Would this fake impeachment be happening if the rats had a winner? Not,Biden/Sanders/Warren?


7 posted on 01/25/2020 2:21:17 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Fake Impeachment is all you have left when: Biden, Sanders, or Warren have to beat President Trump!)
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The Democrats problem is ... in 2016 Trump won because people voted for him because they didn’t want (or like) Hillary.

Trump was an unknown as far as whether he was a conservative or a liberal “trying” to help Hillary get elected!
(Yes, that was a common talking point almost everywhere: “He’s only running to split the Republican candidates votes”)

This time the Democrats have to run against a President Trump who has proved his conservative credentials, created a booming economy ‘and’ has a much larger support of Christians and minorities!

And my guess is that any Democrat that runs against President Trump wouldn’t be ‘liked’ any more than Hillary was!?
(All crooks, nuts and liars)


8 posted on 01/25/2020 2:25:02 PM PST by justme4now (Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
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"Could Bernie win against Trump?"

Nixon/McGovern - 1972
9 posted on 01/25/2020 2:27:01 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Hojczyk

I love good news.


10 posted on 01/25/2020 2:31:31 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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Dems are going scorched-earth with Bernie as their nominee and House/Media attacking Trumps flank.

November Trump Landslide.


11 posted on 01/25/2020 2:47:11 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: xzins
I fully expect Sanders to refuse to debate...maybe ANY democrat will refuse to debate Trump.

Which Trump will also use to bludgeon him/her/xe into a bloody mess.

12 posted on 01/25/2020 2:51:07 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: clearcarbon

Reagan/Mondale - 1984


13 posted on 01/25/2020 2:54:01 PM PST by karnage
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To: SVTCobra03
You are assuming that Occasional-Cortex will be re-elected in 2020.
Why would she have to be re-elected to run for President in 2024?...She wouldn't.
14 posted on 01/25/2020 3:03:47 PM PST by lewislynn (STOP SUPPORTING CHINA AND ANTI-AMERICAN GLOBALISTS! DO IT NOW!)
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To: xzins

The question is would the democrats manufracture enough ballots for Bernie to win...

I thuink they would rather let him lose and just go after Trump for four more years..

Bernie is like Trump in that he is an outsider


15 posted on 01/25/2020 3:04:18 PM PST by Hojczyk
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The largest gang of clowns, deceivers, marxists, misfits, morons, socialists, scumbags, tyrants, etc., etc. to ever run for POTUS at one time in one party.

See clearly. 2020 Ready - Aim - Vote Asymmetric warfare...by ballot...and no law against ridicule towards them.


16 posted on 01/25/2020 3:05:17 PM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: xzins

Sanders will win the nomination. The plan was to throw Biden under the bus *after* he got enough delegates to prevent a first ballot nomination of anybody else but before he could get enough to win the nomination himself thus allowing for a brokered convention. But they bungled the timing or the Republican defense disrupted their plan. Bernie now has enough momentum to capture the hard core leftie votes while the moderates scratch their heads and sit it out or shake them in disgust and vote for Trump instead.

Madcow will never hold an office that high. Too looney, too many gaffes, too stupid to cover for the other two problems.


17 posted on 01/25/2020 3:06:43 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Progressive Mafia.)
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To: Paladin2
"And guess who will be constitutionally eligible to run for president in 2024? (Hint: Her initials are AOC.)" Well, there you go. THAT explains a lot.

Think about 2024 for a moment. Who do the dems have to run that is out there now? Biden, Bernie and Bloomberg will be in their 80's, Warren has already been exposed and the rest of the current candidates are god awful choices. AOC is clearly unelectable - she's a dope. There is nobody with any national visibility.

18 posted on 01/25/2020 3:19:03 PM PST by Go Gordon (I gave my dog Grady a last name - Trump - because he loves tweets.)
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They control the government at all levels. Trump is surrounded by deep state operatives. The evil lizard man Soros is buying DA positions all over the country. Our law enforcement organizations depend upon the terrorist SPLC to determine who to target. Our State department is pouring third world savages into our unsuspecting communities in full cooperation with their progressive counterparts in the state governments.


19 posted on 01/25/2020 3:27:44 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Grampa Dave

And now they’ve had their ass handed to them in two hours by the President’s Dream Team.


20 posted on 01/25/2020 3:29:33 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (It's the corruption, stupid)
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