Posted on 01/22/2020 4:04:59 AM PST by Kaslin
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Giving the parents say over where their kids go to school is the first step towards some sort of accountability for the educational bureaucracy
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And the economic slaves paying taxes w/o usage/benefit??
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If a two-house majority and state legislative majorities can bring about school choice, the Dems will not be able to scream racism loud enough to dissuade minorities from voting Republican. Trump can make it happen.
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& if frogs had wings, they wouldn’t bump their asses when they hopped.
I don’t recall ANY State re-affirming their 9th/10th A. authority, let alone the feckless (R)-wing of the Uniparty (when’s the last time A1S8 was uttered by EITHER chamber of Congress??).
The (R)N(C) hasn’t done *poop* about it in 40yrs+ (GROWN it, actually), there’s NO way the President has *any* authority over the matter.
And the economic slaves paying taxes w/o usage/benefit??
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The parents ARE the economic slaves. Even if they rent, they are paying the taxes their landlord pays because he charges his tenants the cost. As for income tax, which goes towards, inter alia, welfare checks and subsidizing public schools, it’s a huge benefit that the children get to go to a school that actually teaches something, because then, instead of another generation of welfare dependents and/or criminals, the better schools will yield a crop of employable adults, and the failed public schools will have to lay off or fire ineffective teachers and administrators due to the fall-off in income. Win-win.
& if frogs had wings, they wouldnt bump their asses when they hopped...blah blah blah.
OK. We’re all doomed. Surrender. Good luck.
The white vote will save Trump, or sink him.
The black vote can sink the Democrats without even voting. Because the Democrats need the black vote, and if it doesnt turn out, Trump wins.
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As for income tax, which goes towards, inter alia, welfare checks and subsidizing public schools, its a huge benefit that the children get to go to a school that actually teaches something, because then, instead of another generation of welfare dependents and/or criminals, the better schools will yield a crop of employable adults, and the failed public schools will have to lay off or fire ineffective teachers and administrators due to the fall-off in income. Win-win
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Wait? Schools ‘teach’ something? That alone validates the (economic) enslavement\Rights trampling of others??
Lastly, WHEN was the last time a govt school was CLOSED? 10-15 yrs after (while any private/charter is done IMMEDIATELY)? Let alone the time/cost/trouble to FIRE bad teachers+
Govt uses taxpayers to subsidize its failures
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& if frogs had wings, they wouldnt bump their asses when they hopped...blah blah blah.
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OK. Were all doomed. Surrender. Good luck.
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Unless you can point to any elected poli critter articulating anything counter to the accepted ‘truth’....Or are you of the ‘cont. to pull the same party lever, expecting diff. results’ crowd?
Wait? Schools teach something? That alone validates the (economic) enslavement\Rights trampling of others??
You keep pretending that there is a difference between tax payers and tax beneficiaries. The question is, how to arrange the benefits and the taxes so that they work to create the result desired, more productive taxpayers. Under the present system, they do not. The economic enslavement and rights trampling goes on, producing illiterate burdens. Producing functioning citizens means producing people able to produce and provide for themselves, and share the burdens of citizenship, thereby relieving the “others”. They become taxpayers, rather than remaining burdens.
“Lastly, WHEN was the last time a govt school was CLOSED? 10-15 yrs after (while any private/charter is done IMMEDIATELY)? Let alone the time/cost/trouble to FIRE bad teachers+
Govt uses taxpayers to subsidize its failures”
So therefore the thing to do is continue to produce failure and continue to subsidize it. Take the money away and the school will either shape up to attract the money back, or ultimately close down.
“Unless you can point to any elected poli critter articulating anything counter to the accepted truth....Or are you of the cont. to pull the same party lever, expecting diff. results crowd?”
Try coherence. This is unreadable.
Do you believe that Trump is going to abolish the Income Tax and defund everything except the post office and military? Dream on.
School choice is what you do when education is going to be funded no matter what, in order to make the funding smarter and more effective, and throw a wrench in the machinery of multi-generational dependency.
That goes: Payers==$$ Out for “education”, $$ Out for welfare moms, $$ Out for prisons, $$ Out for fake rehab programs, $$ Out for more welfare moms, $$ Out for more “education,” and $$ Out for more prisons. Repeat until society collapses.
School choice isn’t extra money out, it’s allocating the money that’s already going out in a way that might end this vicious cycle. I say might. But you say, if it costs money, blahblahblah it costs money. I have yet to hear a constructive alternative from you. You’re opposed to public education. I’m opposed to keeping it as it is.
So are a great many minority voters who have been victimized themselves—not by “white supremacy” or any of those other fake bugaboos, but by the public non-education system, and the welfare state that it’s designed to perpetuate. I agree with them. You disagree with everyone.
If I’m wrong, give me a real alternative that is right.
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School choice is what you do when education is going to be funded no matter what, in order to make the funding smarter and more effective, and throw a wrench in the machinery of multi-generational dependency.
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Ye got plenty of ‘school choice’...not much of a ‘wrench’ so far.
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I have yet to hear a constructive alternative from you. Youre opposed to public education. Im opposed to keeping it as it is.
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Please. You can search & see positive, constructive and (only/wholly) *legal* “alternatives”
- Elim property taxes (restore prop. Rights)
- Elim welfare state (restore GOBS of Rights)
- Return to user pays upon service(s) rendered
NOBODY cares more about the cost, quality & efficiency than the one writing the check.
‘Vouchers’ merely shift from govt being the 3rd party payer to parent(s)\guardian(s) telling govt where to the send the TAXPAYER supplied check + a bit of their own $$.
Better education? Cheaper? Seems...until govt can put down the jack-boot (and they ARE a trying...& winning).
But, of “course”, you’re right. You say so yourself *rolls eyes*
True, school choice would benefit inner city Blacks the most, and it is a Republican initiative. This should be a major reason for Blacks to support Trump imho.
Two things-
1) Most state constitutions require the state to provide education to the children of that state.
2). My friend who is a teacher said one time when we were talking about every parent paying for education that half the kids in his district would never set foot in a school then.
Nice conversation you’re having with your navel. I wish you luck in convincing it that you’re right. If you would at least explain to the rest of us what you mean, we could evaluate and respond.
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